Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-25 Thread QQQQ
no Perkel, everthing posted is not necessarily acceptable, helpful and/or relevant. especially when spamming the list for your tarbaby stuff, free or not. So I must not be the only one tired of this. Q

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
no Perkel, everthing posted is not necessarily acceptable, helpful and/or relevant. especially when spamming the list for your tarbaby stuff, free or not. On 25.08.10 09:08, wrote: So I must not be the only one tired of this. there are more of us, I just didn't want to complain in the

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On ons 25 aug 2010 17:52:18 CEST, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote So I must not be the only one tired of this. there are more of us, I just didn't want to complain in the public, yet. and now we did :( -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

RE: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-24 Thread R-Elists
Agreed. Seems to me that any discussion related to blocking spam is relevant. no Perkel, everthing posted is not necessarily acceptable, helpful and/or relevant. especially when spamming the list for your tarbaby stuff, free or not. it appears to me that you used to be a lot more

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-23 Thread Raul Dias
On 08/18/2010 10:14 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: [...] They were discussing ways to reduce spam and I mentioned it. [...] I believe, that 95% of the discussion in this list is about reducing spam in a way or another. -rsd

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-23 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/23/2010 2:31 AM, Raul Dias wrote: On 08/18/2010 10:14 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: [...] They were discussing ways to reduce spam and I mentioned it. [...] I believe, that 95% of the discussion in this list is about reducing spam in a way or another. -rsd Agreed. Seems to me that any

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 19 aug 2010 03:14:50 CEST, Marc Perkel wrote Now you're going to criticize me for explaining what you just asked for? moderator did not criticize but say imho just this is not your market place -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 8/17/10 7:30 PM, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not directly spamassassin related, but can be helpful for people (I saw here) wondering if they would used the barracuda DNSBL. When other well

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread corpus.defero
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 06:36 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 8/17/10 7:30 PM, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not directly spamassassin related, but can be helpful for people (I saw

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Kris Deugau
Alexandre Chapellon wrote: When other well known DNSBL (I have always heard spamhaus sbl and xbl are trust worthy) list less at most 50 entries , barrcuda lists almost 8000 That's not a problem all by itself, but when combined with this: Finally there is a special feature that barrcuda

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Matt
Finally there is a special feature that barrcuda folks call deep scanning which makes the appliance scans the 'Received' headers and reject the mails if an IP found in that headers, is listed in the DNSBL... a feature that should obviously be called: 'even increase my false positive rate'

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Finally there is a special feature that barrcuda folks call deep scanning which makes the appliance scans the 'Received' headers and reject the mails if an IP found in that headers, is listed in the DNSBL... a feature that should obviously be called: 'even increase my false positive rate'

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Joseph Brennan
Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps for authenticated SMTP not record the IP address in the headers but rather just the authenticated username in the headers. I think Squirrelmail does that. Your MTA logs will have the IP recorded if needed later. From the browser to Squirrelmail is not

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Le mercredi 18 août 2010 à 10:53 -0400, Kris Deugau a écrit : Alexandre Chapellon wrote: When other well known DNSBL (I have always heard spamhaus sbl and xbl are trust worthy) list less at most 50 entries , barrcuda lists almost 8000 That's not a problem all by itself, but when

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Joseph Brennan
The error message from Barracuda is broken too. Sample: ... while talking to barracuda.xprize.org.: DATA 554 Service unavailable; Client host [tarap.cc.columbia.edu] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?r=1ip=69.86.203.182 554 5.0.0 Service

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Le mercredi 18 août 2010 à 06:36 -0400, Michael Scheidell a écrit : On 8/17/10 7:30 PM, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not directly spamassassin related, but can be helpful for people (I

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Le mercredi 18 août 2010 à 13:39 -0400, Joseph Brennan a écrit : The error message from Barracuda is broken too. Sample: ... while talking to barracuda.xprize.org.: DATA 554 Service unavailable; Client host [tarap.cc.columbia.edu] blocked using Barracuda Reputation;

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Le mercredi 18 août 2010 à 12:10 +0100, corpus.defero a écrit : On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 06:36 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 8/17/10 7:30 PM, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/18/2010 4:10 AM, corpus.defero wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 06:36 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 8/17/10 7:30 PM, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not directly spamassassin related, but

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/18/2010 7:53 AM, Kris Deugau wrote: Alexandre Chapellon wrote: When other well known DNSBL (I have always heard spamhaus sbl and xbl are trust worthy) list less at most 50 entries , barrcuda lists almost 8000 That's not a problem all by itself, but when combined with this:

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Le mercredi 18 août 2010 à 11:27 -0700, Marc Perkel a écrit : On 8/18/2010 7:53 AM, Kris Deugau wrote: Alexandre Chapellon wrote: When other well known DNSBL (I have always heard spamhaus sbl and xbl are trust worthy) list less at most 50 entries , barrcuda lists almost 8000

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Matt
By the way I'm not a big fan of registering my servers to any private entity in order to improve deliverability. Register our servers here: www.dnswl.org Do not really use it for scoring but do not grey list any servers listed. Matt

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Sergios T.S. ( aka linuxman)
στις 18/08/2010 10:03 μμ, O/H Matt έγραψε: By the way I'm not a big fan of registering my servers to any private entity in order to improve deliverability. Register our servers here: www.dnswl.org Do not really use it for scoring but do not grey list any servers listed. Matt Hi ,

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/18/2010 12:29 PM, Sergios T.S. ( aka linuxman) wrote: στις 18/08/2010 10:03 μμ, O/H Matt έγραψε: By the way I'm not a big fan of registering my servers to any private entity in order to improve deliverability. Register our servers here: www.dnswl.org Do not really use it for scoring

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Sergios T.S. ( aka linuxman)
στις 18/08/2010 10:38 μμ, O/H Marc Perkel έγραψε: On 8/18/2010 12:29 PM, Sergios T.S. ( aka linuxman) wrote: στις 18/08/2010 10:03 μμ, O/H Matt έγραψε: By the way I'm not a big fan of registering my servers to any private entity in order to improve deliverability. Register our servers here:

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:38 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Registering with a white list doesn't reduce spam. It reduces false positives when you send email. If you want to reduce spam however you could add this MX record as your highest numbered MX. tarbaby. [...] Ahem. Marc, your

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On the other hand, back to topic, Barracuda rejecting for mail originating on a dialup line is just crazy. We've seen it too. And it has been mentioned here, and in other places on the net, before. Yes, indeed, there appears to be an issue with Barracuda appliances' configuration in certain

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/18/2010 4:46 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:38 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Registering with a white list doesn't reduce spam. It reduces false positives when you send email. If you want to reduce spam however you could add this MX record as your highest numbered

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 8/18/2010 6:14 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: On 8/18/2010 4:46 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:38 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Registering with a white list doesn't reduce spam. It reduces false positives when you send email. If you want to reduce spam however you could

Re: How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-18 Thread Marc Perkel
On 8/18/2010 9:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 8/18/2010 6:14 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: On 8/18/2010 4:46 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:38 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Registering with a white list doesn't reduce spam. It reduces false positives when you send

How the hell barracuda behaves?

2010-08-17 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Hi the list, I am posting the results of my tests in order to have fedback/feelings/remarqs. This is not directly spamassassin related, but can be helpful for people (I saw here) wondering if they would used the barracuda DNSBL. the problem: - I have quite often complaints from my customers