Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Craig McLean wrote on Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:30:03 +: craig.dnsalias.com is a dynamic DNS domain provided by dyndns.com. Ok, I see. There's no good reason to reject such a domain by it's name. In my case, my IP is supposedly dynamic, in that it's in a dynamic range, but in reality hasn't

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Craig McLean wrote on Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:51:46 +: I *subscribed* with a dyndns-style address in a dynamic space, then couldn't *unsubscribe* it because the list bounced everything. This was even when using my ISPs SMTP relay smarthost-style. I don't know what a dyndns-style address is.

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jim C. Nasby wrote on Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:21:23 -0600: Hence my suggestion for a version/option on SA that was meant to be extremely fast so that MTAs could use it while an email is inbound. That would allow (for example) hitting a number of RBLs and scoring them, instead of using a single

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-27 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl wrote: Craig McLean wrote on Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:51:46 +: I *subscribed* with a dyndns-style address in a dynamic space, then couldn't *unsubscribe* it because the list bounced everything. This was even when using my ISPs SMTP

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-26 Thread mouss
Jim C. Nasby a écrit : Hence my suggestion for a version/option on SA that was meant to be extremely fast so that MTAs could use it while an email is inbound. That would allow (for example) hitting a number of RBLs and scoring them, instead of using a single RBL as a go/no-go decision. look

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-25 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl wrote: Craig McLean wrote on Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:02:47 +: I'll disagree with you here, I have had to contact the list-owner to get a dynamic address unsubscribed You mean an address for which you sent email from dynamic IP

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-25 Thread M.S. Lucas
From: Craig McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kai Schaetzl wrote: Craig McLean wrote on Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:02:47 +: I'll disagree with you here, I have had to contact the list-owner to get a dynamic address unsubscribed You mean an address for which you sent email from dynamic IP space?

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-25 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:32:57PM +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Well, ressource-wise it makes a difference if you run a million mails thru SA or if you can unload 90% at MTA level and run only the remaining 100.000 thru SA. Hence my suggestion for a version/option on SA that was meant to be

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-25 Thread Gary V
Hence my suggestion for a version/option on SA that was meant to be extremely fast so that MTAs could use it while an email is inbound. That would allow (for example) hitting a number of RBLs and scoring them, instead of using a single RBL as a go/no-go decision. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Craig McLean wrote on Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:02:47 +: I'll disagree with you here, I have had to contact the list-owner to get a dynamic address unsubscribed You mean an address for which you sent email from dynamic IP space? Honestly, and not meant to be offensive, but if you do that

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-24 Thread mouss
Kai Schaetzl a écrit : Craig McLean wrote on Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:02:47 +: I'll disagree with you here, I have had to contact the list-owner to get a dynamic address unsubscribed You mean an address for which you sent email from dynamic IP space? Honestly, and not meant to be

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-23 Thread Kai Schaetzl
You are all speculating. No one knows why or if the original poster can't unsubscribe. And, frankly, it was the first posting of this kind I've ever seen. It's not a problem at all. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-23 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl wrote: You are all speculating. No one knows why or if the original poster can't unsubscribe. I'll agree with that, to a point. And, frankly, it was the first posting of this kind I've ever seen. It's not a problem at all. I'll

RE: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-23 Thread Martin Hepworth
-Original Message- From: Craig McLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 December 2005 16:03 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl wrote: You

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-23 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Hepworth wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig McLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 December 2005 16:03 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-22 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, it does not allow me to unsubscribe. It's ezmlm, so you can just reject all messages from the list and it will unsubscribe you :-) Tony. -- f.a.n.finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dotat.at/ BISCAY: WEST 5 OR 6 BECOMING VARIABLE 3 OR 4.

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:55:21PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 21 December 2005 18:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, it does not allow me to unsubscribe. Some goofball running the SA list (or a server front-end for the list) decided to 100% block on incoming email to the

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-22 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim C. Nasby writes: BTW, this email is a great example of why it's a horrible idea to filter mail based on an RBL. It's surprising to me that the SA lists aren't just run through SA. Spam making it past that is a good indication of where SA

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:58:24AM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: However, as an Apache project, we're hosting our lists at apache.org, and they get *insane* quantities of spam, viruses, and blowback -- far too many for the hardware to cope with, without upfront DNSBL use, apparently. It's not

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-22 Thread usebsd
Selon Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, as an Apache project, we're hosting our lists at apache.org, and they get *insane* quantities of spam, viruses, and blowback -- far too many for the hardware to cope with, without upfront DNSBL use, apparently. sure, but: - [philosopical]

I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread gallen2
You see, it does not allow me to unsubscribe. Some goofball running the SA list (or a server front-end for the list) decided to 100% block on incoming email to the list with the SORBS dynamic IP list (which is high false positives). Now, the problem is, and what makes this list now a spam

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 06:59:37PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you sign up to a list that won't let you unsubscribe, isn't that one of the key indicators of spam? I know that will get you a block at most all major ISP systems these days real quick, which would probably be hard to get

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Rick Macdougall
Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 06:59:37PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you sign up to a list that won't let you unsubscribe, isn't that one of the key indicators of spam? I know that will get you a block at most all major ISP systems these days real quick, which would

RE: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here is my dilemma. I can't unsubscribe from the other account (this list has it blocked as I described), and there is no alternate method presented in the emails from the list (such as a weblink to opt-out). From the headers: list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here is my dilemma. I can't unsubscribe from the other account (this list has it blocked as I described), and there is no alternate method presented in the emails from the list (such as a weblink to opt-out). From the headers:

RE: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matt Kettler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the headers: list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So you're saying mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is blocked for all IP addresses in SORBS? If they're using the SORBS RBL at the MTA layer, yes. Most MTA layer RBL checks don't even

Re: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 18:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You see, it does not allow me to unsubscribe. Some goofball running the SA list (or a server front-end for the list) decided to 100% block on incoming email to the list with the SORBS dynamic IP list (which is high false positives).

RE: I'm afraid I might have to report this list as a spam source

2005-12-21 Thread Aaron Boyles
I hardly think that a list that you have to go through a three-step process to be put on would qualify as spam, even if you've had difficulty getting removed (and by difficulty, I mean you made one weak attempt at unsubscription, then came in here to throw a public childish fit without asking the