Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-28 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 11:18 -0700, omehegan wrote: Lately a lot of 419 and investment spams have been getting through with very low SA scores. Can anyone take a look at these and see if there's another ruleset I should use to trap them? One thing I've been fiddling with for a while is a

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread Chip M.
Owen B. Mehegan wrote: Lately a lot of 419 and investment spams have been getting through with very low SA scores. Can anyone take a look at these and see if there's another ruleset I should use to trap them? Owen, particularly with 419/scam spams, it's VERY helpful if you tell us more about your

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, June 19, 2009 07:59, Chip M. wrote: Always VERY good advice, particularly given the age difference. :) it should be noted that sa-update does not just fetch all new rules in newer sa versions, but it can be backported to have most rules if one want to make the work with it -- xpoint

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread Charles Gregory
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Chip M. wrote: 3. use a country of origin/route plugin #3 is somewhat controversial, and if implemented must be done VERY carefully. I've been looking into country-based IP blocking and it seems to boil down to two choices: 1) A Spamassassin Plugin named 'relaycountry',

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread omehegan
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Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread omehegan
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Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread SM
At 22:59 18-06-2009, Chip M. wrote: Here's a dump of the complete Countries routes of your samples (frequency first, then square brackets around the IP immediately outside your own network): 2 [France], Nigeria Do you really get such emails from Nigeria? :-) Regards, -sm

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 15:12 -0700, SM wrote: At 22:59 18-06-2009, Chip M. wrote: Here's a dump of the complete Countries routes of your samples (frequency first, then square brackets around the IP immediately outside your own network): 2 [France], Nigeria Do you really get such emails

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread SM
At 15:36 19-06-2009, McDonald, Dan wrote: Of course. Don't you? Although usually the Nigerians relay through Italy, and sometimes Hong Kong. I don't see any email of that type originating from Nigeria in terms of SMTP. Most of these emails originate from other countries. Blocking Italy

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread RW
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:30:29 -0700 SM s...@resistor.net wrote: At 15:36 19-06-2009, McDonald, Dan wrote: Of course. Don't you? Although usually the Nigerians relay through Italy, and sometimes Hong Kong. I don't see any email of that type originating from Nigeria in terms of SMTP. Most

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread RW
On 19 Jun 2009 05:59:50 - Chip M. sa_c...@iowahoneypot.com wrote: I would NEVER block the Netherlands (it _IS_ one of the Geekiest nations on the planet!), however it does have many freemailers who are often compromised, so when it occurs in COMBINATION with an unlikely nation like

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, June 20, 2009 03:27, RW wrote: It would be nice to automate this and keep track of real statistics, so spammy routes could be auto-discovered. AWL plugin already does this pr /16 can be changed to track /24 /32 if one wants a bigger database :) -- xpoint

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-19 Thread SM
At 17:26 19-06-2009, RW wrote: The last hop into the internal network is rarely from Nigeria, but I find it turns up in X-Spam-Relay-Countries in about 9% of my own spam. Can you send me a sample of the email headers off-list? Regards, -sm

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-18 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, My results below... omehegan wrote: SNIP Here are two more of a type that have been getting through CONSTANTLY. They're always almost exactly the same, and I keep training them into my bayes DB but it's not hitting on them :( http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam7 Content

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-18 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, omehegan wrote: Please trim irrelecant content when you reply, thanks. I have site-wide bayes, and yeah its rules are owned by the same user that SA is running as. That's not what I asked - are you _training_ as that user? That's often the problem when bayes isn't

Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread omehegan
://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam6 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Lots-of-419-scam-and-investment-spams-getting-through-suddenly-tp24079208p24079208.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, omehegan wrote: Lately a lot of 419 and investment spams have been getting through with very low SA scores. http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam1 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam2 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam3 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam4

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread omehegan
the SARE fraud ruleset, and verified that it's getting loaded, but it doesn't hit on any of these sample messages. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Lots-of-419-scam-and-investment-spams-getting-through-suddenly-tp24079208p24081502.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread omehegan
but it's not hitting on them :( http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam7 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam8 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Lots-of-419-scam-and-investment-spams-getting-through-suddenly-tp24079208p24086061.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, omehegan wrote: http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam1 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam2 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam3 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam4 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam5 http://www.nerdnetworks.org/spam/spam6 Here are two more of a

Re: Lots of 419/scam and investment spams getting through suddenly

2009-06-17 Thread omehegan
autolearned as ham. I could upgrade SA, I didn't think that would help because I do run sa-update every night at midnight. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Lots-of-419-scam-and-investment-spams-getting-through-suddenly-tp24079208p24086404.html Sent from the SpamAssassin