Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-30 Thread LuKreme
On 29-Nov-2009, at 04:59, Jonas Eckerman wrote: I'd assume that a big ISP using SA (and wants the best from SA install) would pay to use the better DNSBLs. I've found pretty much the opposite; the larger the ISP, the worse job they do filtering spam for their customers. The only exception is

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Martijn Grooten wrote: - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; This doesn't make any sense. You are comparing SA to commercial

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On søn 29 nov 2009 12:59:32 CET, Jonas Eckerman wrote I'd assume that a big ISP using SA (and wants the best from SA install) would pay to use the better DNSBLs. ask recipient if a isp does a well good job of stopping spam to ones inbox, payed dnsbl or not :=) shared rbl listes is silly,

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-28 Thread Michael Scheidell
Martijn Grooten wrote: All, a few months back, there was a discussion on this list about the VBSpam comparative anti-spam tests[1], in which SpamAssassin performed significantly worse than many commercial products. Now I run these tests and I believe something was the matter with (the

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Alex wrote: Hi, - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; Do the commercial vendors get to use publically-available DNSBLs like zen?

Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Martijn Grooten
All, a few months back, there was a discussion on this list about the VBSpam comparative anti-spam tests[1], in which SpamAssassin performed significantly worse than many commercial products. Now I run these tests and I believe something was the matter with (the installation of) SA that made it

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Martijn, I may be missing something here but I went to your website and you use the terms malware and spam interchangeably. Now, it may be true that these days in the commercial realm that the antivirus vendors are all jumping into the anti-spam market to enhance revenue, but in reality,

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Ned Slider
Martijn Grooten wrote: - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; I'm not in any way trying to jump on what you're trying to do as I

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Alex
Hi, - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; Do the commercial vendors get to use publically-available DNSBLs like zen? If so, and