Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-24 Thread Ramprasad
An ISP wpuld never be whitelisted anyhow. Whitelisting is for things like banks and other institutions and organizations that produce no spam. Yellowlisting is for ISPs so that they don't accidentally get blacklisted. SPF is useless because few are using it due to the fact that it just

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-24 Thread Graham Murray
Ramprasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A lot of banks/legitimate bulk email senders change their relay server. Many reasons for that. The most common is that they use a third party to relay their mails and these would keep changing Especially for banks and other high risk phishing targets, it

RE: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-24 Thread Michael Scheidell
-Original Message- From: Graham Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:44 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List Ramprasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A lot of banks/legitimate bulk email senders

RE: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List -Original Message- From: Ramprasad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:08 AM To: Marc Perkel Cc: John Andersen; spamassassin-users Subject: Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-24 Thread Marc Perkel
Chris Santerre wrote: Aren't we dealing with a boolean data set? Its either spam or ham. Which you train your software to look for doesn't really matter. Actually not. I look at email differently. I process 4 different grades of spam and 3 grades of ham. As to my Black/White/yellow

RE: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-23 Thread Brent Kennedy
arms hurt? -Original Message- From: John Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:53 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List On Saturday 22 July 2006 09:03, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for people to try

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-23 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 23 July 2006 07:25, Brent Kennedy wrote: But based on its current setup, spammers who probably read this list, will most likely just feed good feedback about their mail servers through those servers and corrupt the data. And spammers already sign up with every isp they can find and

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-23 Thread Marc Perkel
John Andersen wrote: On Sunday 23 July 2006 07:25, Brent Kennedy wrote: But based on its current setup, spammers who probably read this list, will most likely just feed good feedback about their mail servers through those servers and corrupt the data. And spammers

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-23 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
It *could* be an interesting project, but how long does an IP remain blacklisted? The other problem is that although you may think the whitelist is where the accuracy is going to be there will be plenty of clueless sysadmins who will blindly block based on the blacklist regardless of how accurate

New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-22 Thread Marc Perkel
Looking for people to try this out and for people who want to participate in this new project. These lists do block spam, but more importantly that are used to actively detect nonspam and reduce false positives. Here's the details. I'm looking for some partners to help feed data into the

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-22 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 22 July 2006 09:03, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for people to try this out and for people who want to participate in this new project. These lists do block spam, but more importantly that are used to actively detect nonspam and reduce false positives. Here's the details. I'm looking

Re: New DNS Black list, White List, Yellow List

2006-07-22 Thread Marc Perkel
John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 22 July 2006 09:03, Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for people to try this out and for people who want to participate in this new project. These lists do block spam, but more importantly that are used to actively detect nonspam and reduce false