Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-20 Thread Shane Williams
Based on how far their mailing lists go back, Razor and DCC have been around since the 2000/2001 time period, and as far as I can tell were independent projects. In fact, they're based on different goals/models, which is why it's useful to use both of them. Razor is interested in specifically

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Jo Rhett
John Andersen wrote: Contemplating adding DCC to my SA config. I already do the SURBL tests and Razor2. Will I likely gain any thing via this? Does DCC catch what other tests miss? DCC and Razor are very similar in approach. DCC has recently lost a lot of community support due to policy

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Leander Koornneef
In my experience (which is not statistically comfirmed), Razor catches more spam than DCC. Usually if DCC hits, then Razor will probably also hit. This is not true the other way around: if Razor hits, DCC regularly doesn't hit. Giampaolo's comments are also valid: if they both hit, you get

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Matt Kettler
Jo Rhett wrote: John Andersen wrote: Contemplating adding DCC to my SA config. I already do the SURBL tests and Razor2. Will I likely gain any thing via this? Does DCC catch what other tests miss? DCC and Razor are very similar in approach. DCC has recently lost a lot of community

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Robert Blayzor
Jeff Moss wrote: pain in the butt. In particular dealing with its log files. By default it creates thousands of them a day. There is a way to cut that down to hundreds a day by editing the configuration file. But you still have to run a cron job to keep them from eating your hard drive.

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Bill
I use DCC, Razor and Pyzor. I only installed Pyzor because I thought the more opinions I get on an email the better. By using all 3 I get more spam emails rejected than if I just use DCC and Razor. It helps raise the score of the spam emails. Bill - Original Message - From:

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Leander Koornneef
This seems to extreme to be true. I think you need to fix your DCC setup :-) On 19-okt-2006, at 15:19, Coffey, Neal wrote: John Andersen wrote: Contemplating adding DCC to my SA config. I already do the SURBL tests and Razor2. Will I likely gain any thing via this? Does DCC catch what

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Bill
My statistics look like this. This is from one lower volume server and is only since logs rotated at 4am Sunday morning. DCC - 38,521 (DCC_CHECK) Razor - 52,596 (RAZOR2_CHECK) Pyzor - 11,201 (PYZOR_CHECK) And for the heck of it: DIGEST_MULTIPLE 38,562 Bill

RE: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Bowie Bailey
Leander Koornneef wrote: On 19-okt-2006, at 10:15, Jo Rhett wrote: John Andersen wrote: Contemplating adding DCC to my SA config. I already do the SURBL tests and Razor2. Will I likely gain any thing via this? Does DCC catch what other tests miss? DCC and Razor are very similar

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread Jo Rhett
Matt Kettler wrote: Which policy change is that? And what community has DCC lost support in? (and then he answers his own question) that's not exactly recent. (Spring 2005) Sorry, after doing this for 20 years anything that happened a year ago is recent. Sorry if that confused you. I'd

Re: DCC worth it?

2006-10-19 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 19 October 2006 01:01, Leander Koornneef wrote: . Giampaolo's comments are   also valid: if they both hit, you get higher scores, which may just be enough to push a spam   above your required_score. Ah, well then that's not an issue for me. If razor-50-100 hits its already spam