Just a follow-up to my own brain-lapse:
If you define a custom user scores query like this:
user_scores_sql_custom_querySELECT preference, value FROM
spamassassin_settings WHERE username = _USERNAME_ OR username = '!GLOBAL'
OR
username = CONCAT('@', _DOMAIN_) ORDER BY username
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using site
wide) is about 40mb.
What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do you feel that it has
been
enough to effectively capture your various user email habits?
Default.
How can you be running the default value,
I guess the relevant point for this thread is that I don't necessarily
think
that this is the silver bullet as implied. Even if you use a
high-availability clustering technology that can mirror writes and reads,
you
are STILL dealing with the possibility of a database that is just
email builder wrote:
How can you be running the default value, when the manual says that 15
tokens is only 8MB?? How do you end up with 40MB of data?:
bayes_expiry_max_db_size (default: 15)
What should be the maximum size of the Bayes tokens database? When expiry
occurs, the Bayes
Gary W. Smith wrote:
Just my $0.02 but if it's in MySQL then you really don't need to expire
each one. You can write a custom script that will do this. When you
break it down, expire is really just finding those tokens that are
beyond the threshold where id=x and time=y. The resultant would
email builder wrote:
Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of users
and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at
bottom.
I believe that there are a few running bayes is a similar configuration.
It certainly is a tough problem. I
, November 09, 2005 1:54 AM
To: Gary W. Smith; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using
site
wide) is about 40mb.
What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do you feel that it
has
been
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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:54 AM
To: Gary W. Smith; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using
site
wide) is about 40mb.
What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do
Thanks a lot for checking, Gary!
--- Gary W. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right, my guy gave me the size of bayes + awl. The real number
is 14.5mb. (with an overhead of 3.2mb).
Not sure, that's just what phpmyadmin is reporting. I'll check again.
I can't remember if the DB is
Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of
users
and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at
bottom.
snip
* Other ideas:
- increase system memory as much as possible
- per-domain Bayes instead of per-user???
On Dienstag, 8. November 2005 03:50 email builder wrote:
From what I understand, MySQL cluster design is such that the data
nodes keep all the table data in memory, which would not be feasible
in a 160GB scenario...
No. Cluster means: Take two machines of same config, and mirror them.
It's
Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:48 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
On Dienstag, 8. November 2005 03:38 email builder wrote:
In-memory storage:
All data stored in each data node is kept in memory
In-memory storage:
All data stored in each data node is kept in memory on the node's
host computer. For each data node in the cluster, you must have
available an amount of RAM equal to the size of the database times
the number of replicas,
This refers to the first line: In-memory
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using site
wide) is about 40mb.
What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do you feel that it has been
enough to effectively capture your various user email habits?
__
Start your
Default.
Gart
-Original Message-
From: email builder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:58 PM
To: Gary W. Smith; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using
To: Gary W. Smith; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using site
wide) is about 40mb.
What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do you feel that it has
been
enough to effectively
email builder wrote:
In-memory storage:
All data stored in each data node is kept in memory on the node's
host computer. For each data node in the cluster, you must have
available an amount of RAM equal to the size of the database times
the number of replicas,
This refers to the first line:
Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of users
and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at
bottom.
I'll start the ball rolling with what few tweaks we've made, although they
are not enough; we desperately need more ideas to make this
an opinion.
Gary Wayne Smith
-Original Message-
From: email builder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
Well, I know there have to be some admins out
Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of users
and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at
bottom.
snip
* Other ideas:
- increase system memory as much as possible
- per-domain Bayes instead of per-user???
This might be
We run a linux-ha cluster. Works out well.
-Original Message-
From: email builder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:51 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?
From what I understand, MySQL cluster design
As a result of this, however, we are currently burdened with an
8GB(! yep, you read it right) bayes database (more than 20K users
having mail delivered).
Consider using bayes_expiry_max_db_size in conjunction with
bayes_auto_expire
Using? So you are saying you use non-sitewide
On Freitag, 4. November 2005 21:04 email builder wrote:
*SOMEONE* out there has to be doing
something like this, no???
I would be interested in that, too.
mfg zmi
--
// Michael Monnerie, Ing.BSc --- it-management Michael Monnerie
// http://zmi.at Tel: 0660/4156531 Linux
email builder wrote:
As a result of this, however, we are currently burdened with an
8GB(! yep, you read it right) bayes database (more than 20K users
having mail delivered).
Consider using bayes_expiry_max_db_size in conjunction with bayes_auto_expire
--
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
email builder wrote:
As a result of this, however, we are currently burdened with an
8GB(! yep, you read it right) bayes database (more than 20K users
having mail delivered).
Consider using bayes_expiry_max_db_size in conjunction with
bayes_auto_expire
email builder wrote:
As a result of this, however, we are currently burdened with an
8GB(! yep, you read it right) bayes database (more than 20K users
having mail delivered).
Consider using bayes_expiry_max_db_size in conjunction with
bayes_auto_expire
Using? So you are saying you
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