RE: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Santerre
This just becomes increasingly important when management drops an email in the Put Spam Here folder for training that clearly isn't spam, but something they've subscribed to, like a newsletter. For the email that even I question sometimes, I'd like to be able to give them a definitive answer

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
This just becomes increasingly important when management drops an email in the Put Spam Here folder for training that clearly isn't spam, but something they've subscribed to, like a newsletter. For the email that even I question sometimes, I'd like to be able to give them a definitive

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Kris Deugau
Alex wrote: (how can a mail server be whitelisted while the message body contains a blacklisted URL?) Pretty trivially; if spam with a blacklisted URI is forwarded from an account handled by a trusted server, the final recipient will see both a whitelisted/trusted relay and a blacklisted

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Alex
Hi, (how can a mail server be whitelisted while the message body contains a blacklisted URL?) Pretty trivially;  if spam with a blacklisted URI is forwarded from an account handled by a trusted server, the final recipient will see both a whitelisted/trusted relay and a blacklisted URI.

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Rob McEwen
Alex wrote: for both JMF_W (HOSTKARMA_W) and URIBL_BLACK in the same message. I'm not involved in the management of either of these, but I have some analysis which I think is accurate: (1) Marc Perkel's domain whitelist is auto-generated. This has many advantages... but one disadvantage is

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Alex
Hi, for both JMF_W (HOSTKARMA_W) and URIBL_BLACK in the same message. I'm not involved in the management of either of these, but I have some analysis which I think is accurate: Rob, thanks, I think you've hit the nail on the head on all counts. That's what the spam race is all about -- the

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/10/2009 10:59 PM, Alex wrote: This just becomes increasingly important when management drops an email in the Put Spam Here folder for training that clearly isn't spam, but something they've subscribed to, like a newsletter. For the email that even I question sometimes, I'd like to be able

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Alex
Hi, You know how it is unsafe to use unsubscribe on many spam because that you are a live address? Of course. If you read again, I'm talking about sites like eWeek.com, where someone has intentionally subscribed, but can't figure out how to unsubscribe, so they think if they just treat it as