Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread Henrik K
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 01:45:50PM +0100, mouss wrote: > Henrik K a écrit : > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:40:24PM +0100, mouss wrote: > >> if you use the RelayCountry plugin, you can add rules for a few countries: > > > > If you are lazy, here is about all of africa.. > > > > header RELAYED_419

Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread Matt Kettler
RobertH wrote: > matt > > i hear ya. > > ill be using it and scoring low (or whatever i desire) and using meta's it > appears. > > i wasnt asking for it to be some major contention in SA core scoring... > > i just honestly cannot belive that there are still people out there sending > these emails p

Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread Jonas Eckerman
RobertH wrote: looking hard? of course i did. You did say you didn't see Nigeria anywhere. I took this to mean that you dodn't see it anywhere in the SA default rules, which you would have done using a quick grep. Now I don't know what you meant when you said you didn't see it anywhere

Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
RobertH wrote on Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:53:47 -0800: > i hear you, yet lets get real... > > and, we do use jm_sought stuff. > > the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. Wrong. It is worth a point for *you* and maybe for others. Not for everyone. So, please add a custom rule a

Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread mouss
Henrik K a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:40:24PM +0100, mouss wrote: >> if you use the RelayCountry plugin, you can add rules for a few countries: > > If you are lazy, here is about all of africa.. > > header RELAYED_419 X-Relay-Countries =~ > /\b(?:AO|B[IJW]|C[DFGIMV]|DJ|E[RT]|G[AHMNQW]|

Re: country in africa

2009-02-01 Thread mouss
RobertH a écrit : > thanks mouss > > u the reason i made the subject, "country in africa" was that i didnt > want to use the exact word > you can if you try :) > i can see my mistake it that now. > > as always, i sincerely appreciate the vast programming and SA application > wisdom & knowl

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread RobertH
matt i hear ya. ill be using it and scoring low (or whatever i desire) and using meta's it appears. i wasnt asking for it to be some major contention in SA core scoring... i just honestly cannot belive that there are still people out there sending these emails pretending to be someone from that

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread Matt Kettler
RobertH wrote: > > > how many legitimate emails a day do you people get with the work Nigeria in > it? > Daily, not really. But often enough in email news feeds. i.e. I got one within the last 24 hours.. Remember the rebels threatening oil supplies in Nigeria 4 months ago? Yeah, they called

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
RobertH wrote: it should get a hit. how many legitimate emails a day do you people get with the work Nigeria in it? several now that we are sending the 'n word' back and forth on this list now! -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 > *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporat

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread RobertH
is this good enough for a basic rule to flag that word or should it be different or raw or what? something better? body LOCAL_NIGERIA /\bnigeria\b/i score LOCAL_NIGERIA 0.1 describe LOCAL_NIGERIA This is a simple test rule for nigeria i know that single word rules in general are a bad

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, SM wrote: We then have to obfuscate the words so that we can mention them on this mailing list. If you're running SA mailing list messages through SA you get what you deserve. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.org

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread SM
At 08:18 31-01-2009, RobertH wrote: and if i understand correctly, you can tell the SA config not to bayes_ignore_from *...@spamassassin.apache.org bayes_ignore_to users@spamassassin.apache.org Right. There are still some subscribers who don't realize that some of the messages from this mai

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread RobertH
thanks mouss u the reason i made the subject, "country in africa" was that i didnt want to use the exact word i can see my mistake it that now. as always, i sincerely appreciate the vast programming and SA application wisdom & knowledge on this list. thank you all for you help. and again,

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread RobertH
> > You could score the content if it mentions a country in > Africa. We then have to obfuscate the words so that we can > mention them on this mailing list. It's better to use Bayes > to deal with that type of email. > > Regards, > -sm > > actually, one does not have to obfuscate a w

RE: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread SM
At 22:39 30-01-2009, RobertH wrote: when an email comes in with the word nigeria in it, it should get scored something. You could score the content if it mentions a country in Africa. We then have to obfuscate the words so that we can mention them on this mailing list. It's better to use Ba

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread Henrik K
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:40:24PM +0100, mouss wrote: > > if you use the RelayCountry plugin, you can add rules for a few countries: If you are lazy, here is about all of africa.. header RELAYED_419 X-Relay-Countries =~ /\b(?:AO|B[IJW]|C[DFGIMV]|DJ|E[RT]|G[AHMNQW]|K[EM]|L[RS]|M[WZ]|N[AEG]|RW|S

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen a écrit : > On Sat, January 31, 2009 12:40, mouss wrote: >> The above assumes you don't get (much) mail from these countries. >> adjust the score as you see fit. and of course, use at your own rix. > > i see more spam from outside this countrys, eg 419 spams not sent > from there an

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, January 31, 2009 12:40, mouss wrote: > The above assumes you don't get (much) mail from these countries. > adjust the score as you see fit. and of course, use at your own rix. i see more spam from outside this countrys, eg 419 spams not sent from there anyway, botnet sooks :) -- http://

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
funny story: we just got an inquiry from a large ISP in 'that country' to implement a hosted anti-spam solution for them. Seems we were the only company that they looked at that didn't block email to/from or mentioning 'that country'. (other providers they emailed blocked their email!) They

Re: country in africa

2009-01-31 Thread mouss
RobertH a écrit : > > >> No. Scoring based on single-words is pretty much the >> opposite of the SA approach. That's all I was saying. >> > > karsten, > > i get the SA approach > > and to the no answer, baloney > > this word should get a *HIT* no mattter how small it is scored. > if you

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
> > No. Scoring based on single-words is pretty much the > opposite of the SA approach. That's all I was saying. > karsten, i get the SA approach and to the no answer, baloney this word should get a *HIT* no mattter how small it is scored. - rh

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
> > You must not be looking very hard. It's there, both in the > default ruleset and in the updated ruleset, but not as a > single-word rule: > > grep -i nigeria > /var/db/spamassassin/3.002005/updates_spamassassin_org/* > jo...@chip:~$ grep -i nigeria > /var/db/spamassassin/3.002005/updates_

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Jonas Eckerman
RobertH wrote: how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is not worth a point in SA default config You mean the rules? nor do i see it anywhere You must not be looking very hard. It's there, both in the default ruleset and in the updated ruleset, but not as a

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:53, RobertH wrote: > the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. It was already explained by Karsten... > guess that should be in local rules eh? if you want... yes. But note that scoring on a single word is really a bad idea... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:53 -0800, RobertH wrote: > Karsten and Matus > > i hear you, yet lets get real... > > and, we do use jm_sought stuff. > > the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. No. Scoring based on single-words is pretty much the opposite of the SA approach. That

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
Karsten and Matus i hear you, yet lets get real... and, we do use jm_sought stuff. the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. guess that should be in local rules eh? ;-) - rh

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:42, RobertH wrote: > what i mean is how could an email with nigeria make it through SA without a > score based on the word nigeria? because if they could not, I could not see this e-mail nor answer it. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning:

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
matus, what i mean is how could an email with nigeria make it through SA without a score based on the word nigeria? - rh

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:22 -0800, RobertH wrote: > how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is > not worth a point in SA default config Because single-word rules are a bad idea. Use JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD (part of the general Sought rule-set). Some of us are *manually* goi

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:22, RobertH wrote: > how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is > not worth a point in SA default config What do you mean? How and why should it be mentioned in the defalt config? -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/