Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-08-07 Thread David Jones
On 08/07/2017 02:53 PM, Scott wrote: David: re: Postscreen weighted RBLs I've got my postscreen setup with some weighted RBL's. But I was curious what others did here. I searched for that subject and didn't get any specific hits. Any particular thread you know of? See the bottom of this p

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-08-07 Thread Scott
://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Random-word-spams-and-wiki-spams-tp134792p137999.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-13 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Bill Cole wrote: In the places where I've been directed to implement quarantining, it has proven a worse support problem than outright rejection of actually legitimate mail could reasonably be. The problem is that it is effectively a silent ailure: mail arrives and is acep

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-13 Thread Bill Cole
On 8 Jul 2017, at 15:26, Alex wrote: [Quoting me] 2. That MIME structure is pathological. It merits a specific hard rejection with a derisive text part. Anything generating FPs (never seen one...) needs spanking. I don't understand? The message is labeled as multipart/mixed but it only has

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-09 Thread Alex
Hi, > And here is my /etc/clamav-unofficial-sigs.conf with the ClamAV databases I > have selected and found to be not overly aggressive to create false > positives: > > https://pastebin.com/vFYBiPLv > > NOTE: The above pastebin links are good for 1 month. It looks like you're missing some of the

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-09 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 11:48 AM, Pedro David Marco wrote: >Also, setup the KAM.cf rules and extra signatures for ClamAV from >Sanesecurity. These often help with new spam campaigns. I can post >which signature DBs I am using if that would be helpful. >-- >Dave Hi Dave... i have had problems i

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread Alex
Hi, >>> I'm interested in how your system would have (or currently does) >>> handle this email I received some days ago: >>> https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt >>> >>> Its IP (106.186.119.240) is still not listed with spamhaus, sorbs or >>> hostkarma, and has an 83 rating with senderscore. >> >> >> Thi

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread RW
On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 00:29:29 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > 1. Null sender with From & Subject both inconsistent with DSN or > other legit null-sender mail. In this case it's more a problem with his headers: Return-Path: <> ... X-Envelope-From: I think that a null sender could be the basis of a us

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 02:04 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, I ran that message through one of my filters manually: One of your filters? Copy/pasted your email into a file and manually ran spamassassin < msg on one of my eight mail filters. -0.2 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnsw

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 11:29 PM, Bill Cole wrote: On 7 Jul 2017, at 13:04, Alex wrote: I'm interested in how your system would have (or currently does) handle this email I received some days ago: https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt Its IP (106.186.119.240) is still not listed with spamhaus, sorbs or hostkarm

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread Tobi
defining own ones. Will do it this evening Cheers tobi - Originale Nachricht - Von: Alex Gesendet: 08.07.2017 - 05:05 An: jahli...@gmx.ch, SA Mailing list Betreff: Re: Random word spams and wiki spams > Hi, > >> Without that rule it might have flown below my sa-radar. >> G

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-08 Thread Tobi
-- Originale Nachricht - Von: Benny Pedersen Gesendet: 08.07.2017 - 03:27 An: users@spamassassin.apache.org Betreff: Re: Random word spams and wiki spams > Tobi skrev den 2017-07-07 19:40: > >>> https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt > >> __HAS_LIST_ID exists:exists:List-I

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 7 Jul 2017, at 13:04, Alex wrote: I'm interested in how your system would have (or currently does) handle this email I received some days ago: https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt Its IP (106.186.119.240) is still not listed with spamhaus, sorbs or hostkarma, and has an 83 rating with senderscore.

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, > Without that rule it might have flown below my sa-radar. > Got some scoring on it by using this plugin: > https://github.com/eilandert/Botnet.pm Be careful with the botnet plugin - it's terribly out of date and very prone to false-positives. It's just not effective anymore.

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
HI, >> __HAS_LIST_ID exists:exists:List-Id > > typo ? It also already exists: # grep __HAS_LIST_ID * 10_hasbase.cf:header __HAS_LIST_ID exists:List-Id > imho it should be exists:headername > >> HAS_LIST_UNSUB exists:List-Unsubscribe So does this one: 72_active.cf:header __

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, > Ummm. Well. I don't have any hits on that RHSBL rule in the past 2 weeks > so maybe that is not a valid rule. Ignore that one. I think I will take it > out of my ivm.cf file. > > To all, please don't setup these rules and flood the IVM DNS servers with > requests. IVM is a private RBL f

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
Tobi skrev den 2017-07-07 19:40: https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt __HAS_LIST_ID exists:exists:List-Id typo ? imho it should be exists:headername HAS_LIST_UNSUB exists:List-Unsubscribe that would score 1.0, intended ? if not change to __HAS_LIST_UNSUB but check spamasassin own r

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Tobi
Am 07.07.2017 um 19:04 schrieb Alex: > > I'm interested in how your system would have (or currently does) > handle this email I received some days ago: > https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt > that one triggers one of my redpill meta rules and scores at 24.1 :-) __HAS_LIST_ID exists:exists:List-Id H

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 05:39 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, urirhssub URIBL_IVMRHSBL uri.invaluement.com. A127.0.0.2 tflags URIBL_IVMRHSBL net score URIBL_IVMRHSBL 3.2 I did not have this one or the reuse line. Is that "right-hand-side"? Do you have one such example? header

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, > urirhssub URIBL_IVMRHSBL uri.invaluement.com. A127.0.0.2 > tflags URIBL_IVMRHSBL net > score URIBL_IVMRHSBL 3.2 I did not have this one or the reuse line. Is that "right-hand-side"? Do you have one such example? > header RCVD_IN_IVMBL > eval:check

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 03:08 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Alex wrote: It's just a short body with a URI which downloads malware. We got hit by this pretty hard. This is where the real threats are. Receive one of these to an Exchange distri

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Alex wrote: On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Alex wrote: It's just a short body with a URI which downloads malware. We got hit by this pretty hard. This is where the real threats are. Receive one of these to an Exchange distribution l

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread jahlives
Am 07.07.2017 um 19:04 schrieb Alex: > > I'm interested in how your system would have (or currently does) > handle this email I received some days ago: > https://pastebin.com/innRFvZt > that one triggers one of my redpill meta rules and scores at 24.1 __HAS_LIST_ID exists:exists:List-Id HAS_L

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Alex wrote: > >> It's just a short body with a URI which downloads malware. We got hit >> by this pretty hard. This is where the real threats are. Receive one >> of these to an Exchange distribution list and your reputat

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
Mostly autolearn ham and train some spam, have found that one account needed ham though. Most user accounts in question are at least 200/200, most are well over a few thousand each (I believe) >> I need to read up bayes a bit, I was surprised to learn that after >> using sa-learn --spam, the

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Charles Amstutz wrote: I need to read up bayes a bit, I was surprised to learn that after using sa-learn --spam, then bayes only tagged it at Bayes_50 instead of Bayes_99, Unless I did something incorrect. There is a minimum level of both spam *and ham* that Bayes must be

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017, Alex wrote: It's just a short body with a URI which downloads malware. We got hit by this pretty hard. This is where the real threats are. Receive one of these to an Exchange distribution list and your reputation with the customer suffers badly. Defense in depth. For that s

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
>> I find many don't contribute (despite it being open source) for fear of >> spammers using these ideas against us, but the project suffers as a result. I think others don't due to IP rights. I'm glad people do though.

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 2:30 PM, David Jones wrote: > On 07/07/2017 12:04 PM, Alex wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, David Jones wrote: >>> >>> On 07/07/2017 11:04 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
I need to read up bayes a bit, I was surprised to learn that after using sa-learn --spam, then bayes only tagged it at Bayes_50 instead of Bayes_99, Unless I did something incorrect. Note: I do not use bayes files in user profiles, I use it in mysql database

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 12:04 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, David Jones wrote: On 07/07/2017 11:04 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One thing I've noticed is that sometimes it takes a day for any *BL's to pick up some of the

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, David Jones wrote: > On 07/07/2017 11:04 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: >> >> Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One thing >> I've noticed is that sometimes it takes a day for any *BL's to pick up some >> of the spam, and by that time, th

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
Has anyone ever got something like machine learning (I get that is what bayes kind of is) or R working with spam assassin? I’ve seen Books on this and maybe was refering to Bayes, but not sure.

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Pedro David Marco
>Also, setup the KAM.cf rules and extra signatures for ClamAV from >Sanesecurity.  These often help with new spam campaigns.  I can post >which signature DBs I am using if that would be helpful. >-- >Dave Hi Dave... i have had problems in the past with the script to download Sanesecurity DB

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
apache.org' Subject: Re: Random word spams and wiki spams On 07/07/2017 11:04 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: > Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One thing > I've noticed is that sometimes it takes a day for any *BL's to pick up > some of the spam,

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 11:04 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One thing I've noticed is that sometimes it takes a day for any *BL's to pick up some of the spam, and by that time, the run could be done. Greylisting isn't an option. It sometimes feels

RE: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
Thank you everyone for the suggestions, I will look into it. One thing I've noticed is that sometimes it takes a day for any *BL's to pick up some of the spam, and by that time, the run could be done. Greylisting isn't an option. It sometimes feels like always reactive vs pro-active in filtering

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread David Jones
On 07/07/2017 10:15 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/7/2017 9:06 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: I am new to the group, but have experience with writing some rules and some meta rules. Has anyone come up with a good way to detect spam that has random words in paragraph forms (usually at the bottom

Re: Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/7/2017 9:06 AM, Charles Amstutz wrote: I am new to the group, but have experience with writing some rules and some meta rules. Has anyone come up with a good way to detect spam that has random words in paragraph forms (usually at the bottom of the message body) or they look like they cop

Random word spams and wiki spams

2017-07-07 Thread Charles Amstutz
Hello, I am new to the group, but have experience with writing some rules and some meta rules. Has anyone come up with a good way to detect spam that has random words in paragraph forms (usually at the bottom of the message body) or they look like they copy parts from various wiki's or other n