Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.08.09 09:43, monolit wrote: If you are so clever (because I am bad english speaker) you can explain me this problematics in my mail(po slovensky). Its problem for you? I didnt enough good materials about this theme in czech language. Well, - do not train on fake messages. - do not modify

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:39:44 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: On 03.08.09 09:43, monolit wrote: If you are so clever (because I am bad english speaker) you can explain me this problematics in my mail(po slovensky). Its problem for you? I didnt enough good materials about

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread monolit
Good morning. The output of sa-learn --dump magic after bayes learning is +1 nspam/nham. I tried the command several. times. I tried write the mail with Subject: viagra; body: viagra and sent it from my first account to the my second account(score 0,4). Then I used sa-learn -spam for this mail. I

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 23:50 -0700, monolit wrote: Good morning. The output of sa-learn --dump magic after bayes learning is +1 nspam/nham. I tried the command several. times. I tried write the mail with I did not ask for the difference. I asked for the output of the command. Subject: viagra;

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread monolit
I got you output of the command sa-learn --dump magic. About your end of your report...it could not be AWL because I have AWL disabled. I had lucky today ... my chief was busy. I will present my solutions tomorrow:) -- View this message in context:

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.08.09 09:20, monolit wrote: I got you output of the command sa-learn --dump magic. About your end of your report...it could not be AWL because I have AWL disabled. I had lucky today ... my chief was busy. I will present my solutions tomorrow:) Better don't present it until you finally

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:20 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: I got you output of the command sa-learn --dump magic. No, you did NOT provide the output. But hey, there's no point in arguing over this or further following up with this thread anyway. -- char

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread monolit
If you are so clever (because I am bad english speaker) you can explain me this problematics in my mail(po slovensky). Its problem for you? I didnt enough good materials about this theme in czech language. -- View this message in context:

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread monolit
Lieber Karl. I dont know of what command output you need? You said sa-learn --dump magic. What can I think about your requirement? I am total confusing from you ... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SA-learn-%28spamassassin%29-tp24773517p24794182.html Sent from the

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT), monolit xmull...@gmail.com wrote: If you are so clever (because I am bad english speaker) you can explain me this problematics in my mail(po slovensky). Its problem for you? I didnt enough good materials about this theme in czech language. its hard to

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:49 -0700, an annoying Nabble user wrote: Lieber Karl. I dont know of what command output you need? You said sa-learn --dump magic. What can I think about your requirement? I am total confusing from you ... Karl? Dear anonymous Nabble user, what I requested from

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-03 Thread monolit
I am really sorry I am tired from work. I made mistake with your name. This task is serious please dont joke (Oh, yeah, you do. We established that before. After all, this entire thread started as a copy-n-paste from an Ubuntu forum. ) I established the thread hier and then copy it to the Ubuntu

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread monolit
I read spamassassin docs... I found out the following: Sa-learn --spam Learn the input message(s) as spam. If you have previously learnt any of the messages as ham, SpamAssassin will forget them first, then re-learn them as spam. Alternatively, if you have previously learnt them as spam,

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread RW
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 04:36:34 -0700 (PDT) monolit xmull...@gmail.com wrote: I changed the value on 1(I use this for testing and my self-learning its my homework). According to me - spam bayes learning was activated. When I use sa-learning so bayes learn that the mail is spam. And bayes learn

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 02:00 +0100, RW wrote: On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:42:21 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: when I learn bayes by hand (sa-learn --spam --file mail) that this mail is spam? I have explicit set in local.cf bayes_min_spam_num 1. This means that for bayes is sufficient one

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread RW
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:15:52 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 02:00 +0100, RW wrote: On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:42:21 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: It's a counter-measure against bad learning, to force at least some MINIMAL manual training,

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 18:31 +0100, RW wrote: AFAIK it doesn't affect autoleaning at all, bayes_min_spam_num bayes_min_ham_num control when scoring starts. Well, it *does* nonetheless. *shrug* If you read back you'll see that that's consistent with what I wrote and the opposite of

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread monolit
FROM SA WWW bayes_min_ham_num (Default: 200) bayes_min_spam_num (Default: 200) To be accurate, the Bayes system does not activate until a certain number of ham (non-spam) and spam have been learned. The default is 200 of each ham and spam, but you can tune these up or down with these two

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread me
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:53:53 -0700 (PDT), monolit xmull...@gmail.com wrote: What is strange when I use SA-LEARN so database dont expand the size, but the time of modification is the same when I sa-learn started. question is ?

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread monolit
Question is logical. When SA learnt new spam/ham so SA have to write new info to the database and I think that database have to increase size. If you have for example *.doc file and you modify it. You add several words - *.doc will be bigger(increase his size). -- View this message in context:

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 11:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: I have theory ...I know you will think thats bad but I tried explain how I understand SA documentation. When I set the bayes_min_spam_num 1 so it means that Bayes learn system will be activate. And now for example: I got As I

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:20:41 -0700 (PDT), monolit xmull...@gmail.com wrote: Question is logical. so are google :) When SA learnt new spam/ham so SA have to write new info to the database and I think that database have to increase size. no, my bayes db is around 150M, but all my mail is in

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread monolit
To Benny Pedersen: I understand your explanation about increasing of spamassassin database. Your example with md5 is clearly. Ok thank you very much! To by Karsten Bräckelmann-2: I want to apologize for my approach - I use Ubuntu and other forums because I am hopeless because my homework was

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:43 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: To by Karsten Bräckelmann-2: I want to apologize for my approach - I use Ubuntu and other forums because I am hopeless because my homework was install configure and run antispam(spamassassin, ClamAV, Clamsmtp,razor, postfix).

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-02 Thread Matt Kettler
monolit wrote: Question is logical. When SA learnt new spam/ham so SA have to write new info to the database and I think that database have to increase size. If you have for example *.doc file and you modify it. You add several words - *.doc will be bigger(increase his size). The database

SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-01 Thread monolit
Hello, I found out the following information: my SPAMD daemon is running under root. But I have in master.cf(postfix configuration file) the following lines: Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format # of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: man 5 master).

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 16:13 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: And the last problem: When I get mail with sign autolearn=ham so I tried type sa-learn --spam --file mail. When I got the same mail so spamassassin mark the mail again autolearn=ham. How is it possible when I learn bayes by

Re: SA-learn (spamassassin)

2009-08-01 Thread RW
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:42:21 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 16:13 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: And the last problem: When I get mail with sign autolearn=ham so I tried type sa-learn --spam --file mail. When I got the same mail so