Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-17 Thread RW
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:20:41 -0400 David F. Skoll wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:08:22 +0100 > RW wrote: > > > It is a bit more complicated than I thought though. Rounding > > towards zero produces sensible results for the 5.0 threshold, but it > > becomes more complicated if one needs to handl

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-17 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:08:22 +0100 RW wrote: > It is a bit more complicated than I thought though. Rounding > towards zero produces sensible results for the 5.0 threshold, but it > becomes more complicated if one needs to handle threholds close to, or > below, zero and which aren't multiples of 0

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-17 Thread RW
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:12:03 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > I assume he knows about all that. Yet, being confronted with the > initial mystery of 4.9 vs 5.0 and a sneaky spam refusing to cross > that all-magic threshold, he seems to have forgotten about rounding. If you reread the original p

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 00:59 +0100, RW wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: The real reason for what you're observing here is (as RW pointed out in a follow-up post), that SPF_SOFTFAIL has a score of 0.972 -- that, and you looking at the rounded scores in the brief summar

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:15:46 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > RW writes: > > I had a look into it, and it seems that rounding is handled in an > > unusual way. It starts by rounding to the nearest 0.1, and then > > subtracts 0.1 if the result is non-spam to avoid the case of: > > > > X-Spam-Status: N

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
RW writes: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 > Harry Putnam wrote: [...] >> I assumed it had something to do with rounding or something so I >> increased the score to 4.1 to get that message to break the spam level >> of 5. >> >> Now the same mail shows a total of 5.1 >> >> 4.1 is shown fo

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > SA is letting mail thru as ham that should be spam apparently based on > what is too low a score (for my mail) for URIBL_JP_SURBL which was > 1.9 by default. > > I pushed it up to 4. > > But then I see a report that shows a total score of

SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
SA is letting mail thru as ham that should be spam apparently based on what is too low a score (for my mail) for URIBL_JP_SURBL which was 1.9 by default. I pushed it up to 4. But then I see a report that shows a total score of 4.9 when 4.0 is shown for URIBL_JP_SURBL 1.0 is shown for SPF_SOFTFA