Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Justin Mason
guys, feel free to mail me samples (offlist) of sought FPs -- ideally, as mboxes. it's easy enough to add them to the training process. --j. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 22:54, mouss mo...@ml.netoyen.net wrote: Le 20/08/2010 17:12, Jan P. Kessler a écrit :  Hi, we use spamassassin with the

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 09 nov 2010 10:39:55 CET, Justin Mason wrote guys, feel free to mail me samples (offlist) of sought FPs -- ideally, as mboxes. it's easy enough to add them to the training process. add Mail::SpamAssassin::MailingList check to sought not solving it ? -- xpoint

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/8/2010 6:04 PM, Lawrence @ Rogers wrote: On 08/11/2010 12:06 PM, Ned Slider wrote: Fair enough - fortunately I've not seen any of those here so assumed a genuine facebook mail had maybe slipped through into the corpus by mistake. Either way, it was fixed by the time I'd spotted it.

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Jared Hall
Bowie Bailey wrote: I haven't seen a lot of false positives, but you're right that they are not hitting much spam. I just checked my logs for the past two weeks and the Sought rules have hit on just over 1% of my spam. They used to be the top rules in my list. What happened? Concur.

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Justin Mason
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 14:24, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: On 11/8/2010 6:04 PM, Lawrence @ Rogers wrote: On 08/11/2010 12:06 PM, Ned Slider wrote: Fair enough - fortunately I've not seen any of those here so assumed a genuine facebook mail had maybe slipped through into the

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/9/2010 11:14 AM, Justin Mason wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 14:24, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: I just checked my logs for the past two weeks and the Sought rules have hit on just over 1% of my spam. They used to be the top rules in my list. What happened? Sorry about

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-08 Thread Ned Slider
On 21/08/10 21:51, Ned Slider wrote: I'm still seeing FP hits against these rules despite a few sought rule updates. It seems there's a few rules hitting on Facebook: # grep Facebook /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/sought_rules_yerp_org/20_sought.cf body __SEEK_YDK7NN / to unsubscribe\.

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-08 Thread João Gouveia
- Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: On 21/08/10 21:51, Ned Slider wrote: I'm still seeing FP hits against these rules despite a few sought rule updates. It seems there's a few rules hitting on Facebook: # grep Facebook

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-08 Thread Ned Slider
On 08/11/10 15:24, João Gouveia wrote: - Ned Slidern...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: __SEEK_FMJXND /\. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click here to unsubscribe\. Facebook, Inc\. P\.O\. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 / I'd guess this is

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-08 Thread mouss
Le 20/08/2010 17:12, Jan P. Kessler a écrit : Hi, we use spamassassin with the sought ruleset since several years at our company. After the upgrade to from 3.2.5 to 3.3.1 we notice tons of false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can not give examples

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-11-08 Thread Lawrence @ Rogers
On 08/11/2010 12:06 PM, Ned Slider wrote: Fair enough - fortunately I've not seen any of those here so assumed a genuine facebook mail had maybe slipped through into the corpus by mistake. Either way, it was fixed by the time I'd spotted it. I've seen it as well, and disabled the Sought

Samples? (was: Re: Sought False Positives)

2010-08-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:47 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:12 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can not give examples as these messages contain confidental customer data (assurance

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-21 Thread Ned Slider
On 20/08/10 19:44, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:47 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:12 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can

Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Hi, we use spamassassin with the sought ruleset since several years at our company. After the upgrade to from 3.2.5 to 3.3.1 we notice tons of false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can not give examples as these messages contain confidental customer

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:12 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: we use spamassassin with the sought ruleset since several years at our company. After the upgrade to from 3.2.5 to 3.3.1 we notice tons of The SA upgrade is unrelated, the sought rules are the same for both and frequently generated from

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:47 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:12 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can not give examples as these messages contain confidental customer data (assurance

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Rob McEwen
I think the problem is the following rule in sought: body __SEEK_2TRLES /Facebook, Inc\. P\.O\. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303/ which is currently hitting on many (or maybe even all ALL?) legitimate facebook notifications (along with the ones generated by spammers) -- Rob McEwen

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:47 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 17:12 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: false-positives hitting on the rules JM_SOUGHT_1 and JM_SOUGHT_2. Unfortunaley I can not give examples as these messages

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Emin Akbulut
Training SA instead of debugging is much easier sometime, I did give up with errors and do my own workarounds; I made _spam and _ham dirs in SA dir and fill them with spam or ham messages when I find a few, then fire the script: @REM Train Spamassassin c: cd \NET\SpamAssassinWin32-EX @REM Learn

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 20 aug 2010 19:42:04 CEST, Rob McEwen wrote body __SEEK_2TRLES /Facebook, Inc\. P\.O\. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303/ which is currently hitting on many (or maybe even all ALL?) legitimate facebook notifications (along with the ones generated by spammers) dkim signed ?, spf passed ?

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Rob McEwen
Benny Pedersen wrote: On fre 20 aug 2010 19:42:04 CEST, Rob McEwen wrote body __SEEK_2TRLES /Facebook, Inc\. P\.O\. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303/ which is currently hitting on many (or maybe even all ALL?) legitimate facebook notifications (along with the ones generated by spammers) dkim

Re: Sought False Positives

2010-08-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 20 aug 2010 23:09:15 CEST, Rob McEwen wrote Yes and yes. But need I even check when I've already confirmed that they were sent from IPs assigned to facebook.com by ARIN? test dkim, all you need to know it is from facebook here if its facebookapp.com dkim signed i skip spf testing, easy