Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-21 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 21:50 -0800, Jeff Chan wrote: > Yes and no. If you sign up for Joe's Bagel Company mailing list > to find out about the latest Bagel news, and some new marketing > guy joins the Bagel company and starts sending marketing messages > about Bananas to that list, then the origin

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, January 20, 2011, 1:31:50 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 1/20/2011 4:17 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: > When you sign up for a company's email list, you get whatever they > decide to send you. If they decide to start sending marketing to the > list, I would not consider that spam because t

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:31:50 -0500 Bowie Bailey wrote: > When you sign up for a company's email list, you get whatever they > decide to send you. OK. I guess we'll agree to disagree on our definitions, then. Regards, David.

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 01/20/2011 11:31 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: Public discussion lists are bit different. In that case, it is the individual post that is being considered spam rather than considering the list spammy. Since there is no overall control over the content of the posts, public lists are vulnerable to

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/20/2011 4:17 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:12:58 -0500 > Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> Of course it is. You subscribed to it. If you don't want it anymore, >> unsubscribe. > I disagree. When you subscribe to a list, there's an implicit understanding > of the content you are

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:12:58 -0500 Bowie Bailey wrote: > Of course it is. You subscribed to it. If you don't want it anymore, > unsubscribe. I disagree. When you subscribe to a list, there's an implicit understanding of the content you are signing up for. If the list owner violates the rules

Re: What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/20/2011 4:10 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:06:31 -1000 > "Warren Togami Jr." wrote: > >> Ham is a lot easier to define than Spam. Ham is simply anything that >> you subscribed for. > Not necessarily. You could subscribe to a list expecting it to contain > useful conten

What is Ham? (was Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap)

2011-01-20 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:06:31 -1000 "Warren Togami Jr." wrote: > Ham is a lot easier to define than Spam. Ham is simply anything that > you subscribed for. Not necessarily. You could subscribe to a list expecting it to contain useful content. A few months later, the organization running the l