Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.09.2014 um 14:42 schrieb Martin Gregorie: > On Fri, 2014-09-19 at 13:47 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Most DNSBL tests are done on the last relay into the internal network. >>> >>> I'm not say this should be done, I'm saying that it's one reason why >>> scanning mailing list can be more t

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best results RW> you have to extend your internal network and maintain it. Matus> no... they do not filter mail from mailing lists through SA. it Matus> is setting

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2014-09-19 at 13:47 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 19.09.2014 um 13:44 schrieb RW: > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:09:23 -0700 > > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:43:49 +0100, > >> RW wrote: > >> > >> RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.09.2014 um 13:44 schrieb RW: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:09:23 -0700 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:43:49 +0100, >> RW wrote: >> >> RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most >> RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best >>

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:09:23 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:43:49 +0100, > RW wrote: > > RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most > RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best > RW> results you have to extend your internal n

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:37:45 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best results RW> you have to extend your internal network and maintain it. Ian> Do you mean the "tr

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:43:49 +0100, RW wrote: RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best results RW> you have to extend your internal network and maintain it. On 18.09.14 22:09, Ian Zimmerman wrote: D

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:43:49 +0100, RW wrote: RW> A lot of people don't put mailing lists through Spamassassin, most RW> of them have already been spam filtered, and to get the best results RW> you have to extend your internal network and maintain it. Do you mean the "trusted_networks" setting h

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2014 um 23:51 schrieb RW: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:24:10 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: >> please read my previous message >> >> what i asked is careful considered and exactly what i need >> even if you could reach something similar with other ways >> because the admin backend needs to be u

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:24:10 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > please read my previous message > > what i asked is careful considered and exactly what i need > even if you could reach something similar with other ways > because the admin backend needs to be understood by other > persons too and final

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2014 um 16:47 schrieb Axb: > On 09/17/2014 04:27 PM, Jesse Norell wrote: > > >>Just a thought - maybe a config setting to not do automatic bayes >> training for a give from/to addr would be more appropriate? Say a meta >> rule (more a "flag" but I don't know enough SA rules to kno

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Jesse Norell
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 16:47 +0200, Axb wrote: > On 09/17/2014 04:27 PM, Jesse Norell wrote: > > > > >Just a thought - maybe a config setting to not do automatic bayes > > training for a give from/to addr would be more appropriate? Say a meta > > rule (more a "flag" but I don't know enough S

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Axb
On 09/17/2014 04:27 PM, Jesse Norell wrote: Just a thought - maybe a config setting to not do automatic bayes training for a give from/to addr would be more appropriate? Say a meta rule (more a "flag" but I don't know enough SA rules to know if those exist) that you set in your own rules.

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Jesse Norell: > On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 17.09.2014 um 14:43 schrieb RW: >>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:50:43 +0200 >>> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> what i want to achieve is 4 levels of negative score for both - FROM and TO ju

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Jesse Norell
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 17.09.2014 um 14:43 schrieb RW: > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:50:43 +0200 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> what i want to achieve is 4 levels of negative score for > >> both - FROM and TO just because it makes sense to handle > >> some mai

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2014 um 14:43 schrieb RW: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:50:43 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> what i want to achieve is 4 levels of negative score for >> both - FROM and TO just because it makes sense to handle >> some mailing lists different without whitelist them completly >> and the same

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:50:43 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > what i want to achieve is 4 levels of negative score for > both - FROM and TO just because it makes sense to handle > some mailing lists different without whitelist them completly > and the same for different RCPT, one user is living in asi

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.09.2014 um 11:31 schrieb Axb: > On 09/17/2014 10:51 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Hi >> >> for some mailing-lists a "more_spam_from" would make >> sense instead whitelist a sender- is there a rule i >> don't see or has somebody a working one for "local.cf"? >> >> honestly i would like to have

Re: "more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Axb
On 09/17/2014 10:51 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Hi for some mailing-lists a "more_spam_from" would make sense instead whitelist a sender- is there a rule i don't see or has somebody a working one for "local.cf"? honestly i would like to have 4 options depending on sender or RCPT * more_spam (-2)

"more_spam_from" like "more_spam_to"

2014-09-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Hi for some mailing-lists a "more_spam_from" would make sense instead whitelist a sender- is there a rule i don't see or has somebody a working one for "local.cf"? honestly i would like to have 4 options depending on sender or RCPT * more_spam (-2) * most_spam (-4) * lot_of_spam (-6) * all_spam