[SARE] Rule Updates

2005-03-15 Thread Robert Menschel
Just a quick note that the following SARE rules files have been updated: 70_sare_genlsubj*cf -- Subject Header rules 70_sare_header*cf -- other Header rules 70_sare_html*cf -- HTML rules 70_sare_specific.cf -- rules to catch specific spammers 70_sare_uri*.cf -- URI rules See http://www.

Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Greg Allen
Does posting to this list open me up to dweebs harvesting email addresses? I'm suddenly getting BS spams to this email address, and they have to be coming from one of two sources. This list being one of the options. Thanks.

RE: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Greg Allen
Yep, I just found the culprit. The below 2 websites volunteer SA users-list email addresses for all the world to harvest. I found my email address in Google from posting here on this list. aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/ Mail/Message/spamassassin-users spamassassin.apache.org/mail/users Be warned,

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Thomas Cameron
I don't post terribly frequently, but I certaibly do post to this list (and many others). Ditto for Usenet. No throw-away addresses for me. I use SpamAssassin with Pyzor, Razor, DCC, and network checks, ClamAV, and greylisting. I can remember one spam message that made it into my Inbox this y

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Mike Burger
Not his point. The second link definitely gets you to, what appear to be, the raw list archive files. The first link got me a blank page. In addition, the actual "archives", that are viewable to the world, show the senders' email addresses. Seems to me that whatever's generating the list archiv

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:35 PM 3/14/2005, Greg Allen wrote: Does posting to this list open me up to dweebs harvesting email addresses? Without a doubt, yes. I am 100% certain that there are spammers subscribed to this list, or are getting the messages in some manner or another. It's rather obvious why they do it.

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Mike Burger wrote: > The second link definitely gets you to, what appear to be, the raw list > archive files. I did not see any "raw list archives" at this moment. But I did see the mail address in the mail archives here. This one for example. http://spamassassin.apache.org/mail/users/200503

Re: plugins and (more)

2005-03-15 Thread Eric A. Hall
Eric A. Hall wrote: Over the weekend I banged together a preliminary ldapBlacklist.pm plugin which lets the master process query an ldap server for whitelist or blacklist flags associated with the connecting SMTP client's reverse DNS, the HELO identifer, the mail-from address, the From address, and

Re: Is it possible to use SURBL without enabling all network tests?

2005-03-15 Thread Jeff Chan
A friend who wishes to remain anonymous forwarded me this patch and note: > Jeff, Saw the thread on sa-users list about using SURBL without other > networks > > Attached is a ugly patch which I think might do the trick. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/ sa30

Re: Bayes not Available

2005-03-15 Thread Norman Zhang
Andy Jezierski wrote: You need to teach Bayes at least 200 spam and 200 non-spam messages before it will do anything for you. Thanks. Is it true that SA will ignore DCC and Razor (evethough they are enabled) if I turn on training mode? Regards, Norman Zhang

RE: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:53 PM 3/14/2005, Greg Allen wrote: Yep, I just found the culprit. The below 2 websites volunteer SA users-list email addresses for all the world to harvest. I found my email address in Google from posting here on this list. One of many.. As I pointed out before, there's probably multiple spam

Re: plugins and (more)

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Parker
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:20:48AM -0500, Eric A. Hall wrote: > - is there a way to force a plugin to load last? like, if I want SPF >and all of the other validation stuff to get called first, but not >to rely on it (it may not be installed), is there a way to force >the plugin to get

Header-Rule with multiple lines

2005-03-15 Thread Jörg Schütter
Hallo, I want to write a additional rule for spamassassin (3.0.2) which match the following header lines. Received: from blabla (unknown [1.2.3.4]) by my.mailserver.com This rule shuld add bad scores to machines which don't talk rfc. Her is my try which doesn't succeded. header MY_RECV_

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Jeff Chan
On Monday, March 14, 2005, 10:31:29 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > I am 100% certain that there are spammers subscribed to this list, or are > getting the messages in some manner or another. It's rather obvious why > they do it. Spam tools seem to quickly adapt to subjects discussed here. > List harv

uninitialized value in hash element

2005-03-15 Thread Vladimir Botka
Hello, after upgrade to: vlado.ace#spamassassin -V SpamAssassin version 3.0.2 running on Perl version 5.8.6 on vlado.ace#uname -a FreeBSD ace.botka.homeunix.org 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Mar 13 05:42:56 CET 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usrmnt/obj/usrmnt/src/sys/ACE i386 Sp

Re: Header-Rule with multiple lines

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:50 AM 3/15/2005, Jörg Schütter wrote: This rule shuld add bad scores to machines which don't talk rfc. Her is my try which doesn't succeded. header MY_RECV_FQDN1 Received =~ /^from [a-zA-Z0-9-]+ (\w+ \w+) by hostname\d\d\.domain\.com describe MY_RECV_FQDN1 Sender does not use FQN in EHLO sco

Re: Header-Rule with multiple lines

2005-03-15 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/15/2005 2:50 AM, Jörg Schütter wrote: > I want to write a additional rule for spamassassin (3.0.2) which > match the following header lines. > > Received: from blabla (unknown [1.2.3.4]) > by my.mailserver.com > > This rule shuld add bad scores to machines which don't talk rfc. http

Re: Tests results are different?

2005-03-15 Thread David Suen
Today I test the SA again. I use spamc -U /tmp/spamd.sock < myspamtest, in the log file it said " result: . 0 - scantime=0.1,size=23009,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=failed" Therefore Im pretty sure the spamd is running but just dont know why when run SA itself it works but not spamd :(

RE: bayesian tokens in text format?

2005-03-15 Thread Ben Wylie
-Original Message- > From: Michael Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2005 22:28 > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:23:37PM +, Paul Reilly wrote: > > > > > Of course, I have to ask, how do you find the data "quite useful?" I > > > > It's useful to see what words/tokens are g

Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Mike Spamassassin
I have just received spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a test which identifies that the description (Esmeralada Bouchard) bears no resemblance to the given sender's address? Similarly I sometimes receive spam mail to my email address but with a completely unrecognisable description. Are there

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Yang Xiao
Explain how does "Mike Spamassassin" describe [EMAIL PROTECTED], what's the resemblence there? Yang On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:00:51 - (GMT), Mike Spamassassin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just received spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there a test which identifies that the description (

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:00 AM 3/15/2005, Mike Spamassassin wrote: I have just received spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a test which identifies that the description (Esmeralada Bouchard) bears no resemblance to the given sender's address? No.. It's quite common for normal people to have that. For example, take

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Mike Spamassassin
Point taken, but I still think it would be a valid test. Like all SpamAssassin tests it should only be one of many indicators. In particular all the ones that I receive I would expect to have "Mike" or "Michael" in the description of my email address. I would also like to be able to pick out those

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
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Re: Bayes DB does not grow anymore

2005-03-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
GRP Productions wrote on Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:12:53 +0200: > >I have been trying to get something from CVS for several days now, no luck. > > Send me your email in private ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to send it to you. Thanks for the offer. You can send it to the email address I use for this list, or

URIBL scores

2005-03-15 Thread Rodney Green
Hello, Where are URIBL scores configured? Thanks, Rod -- Get Firefox Web Browser at the link below! You won't regret it! http://tinyurl.com/4cqbv

Re: URIBL scores

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Rodney Green wrote: Hello, Where are URIBL scores configured? The same place all the scores are configured. The defaults are in /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf Your over-rides should probably go in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf. You can edit the defaults, but if you edit 50_scores, it wil

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Stuart Johnston
Jeff Chan wrote: Well when they can sell spams that don't advertise a web site for the same price as those that do, let us know. Until then SURBLs have them. SURBLs have them... most of the time... eventually... Er, yeah. Hey, SURBLs are GREAT, no doubt about it but lets not kid ourselves. It i

Re: Sudden spam to this email address

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Stuart Johnston wrote: Hey, SURBLs are GREAT, no doubt about it but lets not kid ourselves. It is a long way from a 100% spam solution. I think Jeff's point is that SURBL is one test spammers have a limited ability to adapt to without cutting into their bottom line. Not that it's perfect.

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mike Spamassassin wrote on Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:24:20 - (GMT): > Point taken, but I still think it would be a valid test. > Like all SpamAssassin tests it should only be one of many indicators. > In particular all the ones that I receive I would expect to have "Mike" or > "Michael" in the de

Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Norman Zhang
May I ask what's the difference between /var/lib/amavisd/.spamassassin/user_prefs and /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf? user_prefs contains bayes_file_mode 0640 use_bayes 1 auto_learn 1 skip_rbl_checks 1 use_razor2 0 use_pyzor 0 use_dcc 0 #dcc_add_header 1 while local.cf contains skip_rbl_checks

URI Tests and Japanese Chars

2005-03-15 Thread Rose, Bobby
I have a user that is of Japanese origin and who converses with other individuals in Japan in his same field of study. The messages they send are in Japanese and trip the URI_SBL rule. These people are in different .jp domains and I really don't want to get into the administrative overhead of whi

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: May I ask what's the difference between /var/lib/amavisd/.spamassassin/user_prefs and /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf? In general user_prefs is *intended* for per-user configuration, so that individual users can over-ride the site-wide defaults. local.cf (actually any .cf f

Re: bayesian tokens in text format?

2005-03-15 Thread AltGrendel
Matt Kettler wrote: At 11:46 AM 3/14/2005, Paul Reilly wrote: Is it possible to dump the bayesian tokens in human readable format still? No. In sa 3.0+ they are base-64 encodings of the SHA1 hash of the token. The hash is for all practical purposes not reversible. This is done in part for privac

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Norman Zhang
In general user_prefs is *intended* for per-user configuration, so that individual users can over-ride the site-wide defaults. local.cf (actually any .cf file in /etc/mail/spamassassin) is intended for site-wide customizations, and gets used for all users. It is intended to over-ride the defaul

Re: bayesian tokens in text format?

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
AltGrendel wrote: Does this apply to Bayes/SQL too? It should. AFAIK, the hashing is done by SA 3.0's bayes engine, so the kind of database used doesn't change the fact that tokens are hashed.

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: I don't have any user boxes on my gateway. So should I make user_pref exactly the same as local.cf? No, that's a waste. Make user_prefs an empty file and put all the settings in local.cf I have no users on the gateway. It will be amavis killing virus and SPAM. Do I need at le

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Norman Zhang
Matt Kettler wrote: I don't have any user boxes on my gateway. So should I make user_pref exactly the same as local.cf? No, that's a waste. Make user_prefs an empty file and put all the settings in local.cf Thanks I will merge the setting into local.cf. One thing user_pref disables DCC and Razor

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: Thanks I will merge the setting into local.cf. One thing user_pref disables DCC and Razor along with autolearn. Should I disable them in local.cf? Depends on whether or not you want to use DCC and/or Razor. They are network checks, so they can be comparatively slow, but they'

Re: Different Configuration File

2005-03-15 Thread Norman Zhang
Depends on whether or not you want to use DCC and/or Razor. They are network checks, so they can be comparatively slow, but they're both very effective tests. (At least, if you are talking about Razor 2.6 or higher) I would like to use them with SA. They won't affect Bayes scores? Should I feed S

Auto Whitelist score generation

2005-03-15 Thread William R Thomas
-- William R. Thomas Corvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Co-Webmaster http://www.theonering.net/ *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* If you want to see useful Perl examples, we can certainly a

Re: Auto Whitelist score generation

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Your message seems to be missing it's body, but I'm assuming you're confused by how the scores for the AWL work. I'd suggest a read of the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutoWhitelist and http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AwlWrongWay

Auto Whitelist score generation

2005-03-15 Thread William R Thomas
I had some questions about how the auto whitelist score was generated. Specifically, it seems like it is working opposite to the way it should be in some cases. The equation for the AWL score is: ( meanscore - currentscore) * factor generated from historic me

ATTN List admin -- Please drop david@conexcol.com from the list.

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
The Conexcol mailserver is misbehaving and sending DSN's back to the From: header address, instead of the Return-Path. This winds up borking junk back into poster's mailboxes, and prevents the mailing list from auto-detecting the problem. Can you drop them from the list until they have a chance

Re: Auto Whitelist score generation

2005-03-15 Thread William R Thomas
You were exactly correct, I was seeing the AwlWrongWay problem (maybe phenomena is a better term) and didn't turn up anything on google about it, and was vastly confused. I wish I would have checked my email again before sending the full explanation. On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 04:03:49PM -0500, M

Re: Auto Whitelist score generation

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
William R Thomas wrote: I had some questions about how the auto whitelist score was generated. Specifically, it seems like it is working opposite to the way it should be in some cases. The equation for the AWL score is: ( meanscore - currentscore) * factor gene

Is this Received header correctly formatted?

2005-03-15 Thread Loren Wilton
Received: from ar39.lsanca2-4.16.241.28.lsanca2.elnk.dsl.genuity.net ([4.16.241.28] helo=watson1) by pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1DBKRe-Kp-00; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:23:22 -0800 1) Is "stmp" in lower case valid, or should it have been STMP? 2) Is it valid to hav

sa-learn hangs

2005-03-15 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
Hello, I'm using spamassassin 3.0.2 from within MailScanner 4.39.6 on Debian woody. After upgrading to spamassassin 3.0.2 (installed from source tarball) I am unable to use sa-learn to train the bayes engine on ham or spam. Spamassassin is otherwise working fine. Before upgrading I wiped out my pr

Re: sa-learn hangs

2005-03-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: spamassassin -D -p --lint doesn't show any problems that I can see. if I run: sa-learn --showdots --mbox --ham -p /opt/MailScanner/etc/spam.assassin.prefs.conf sa-learn just hangs. Same happens for --spam. strace shows it stuck on a read(0, Any ideas? What about sa-

Re: Re: Upgrade... + other (perl?) problems

2005-03-15 Thread sa-users
Are there problems with mail header identification? Am I in the wrong list with this question? Thanks Lars Dierich > Mar 13 01:16:18 ns spamd[28893]: processing message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for web321p1:104. > Mar 13 01:16:20 ns spamd[28893]: Use of uninitialized value in > concatenation (.) or

Re: Re: Upgrade... + other (perl?) problems

2005-03-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:27:28AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are there problems with mail header identification? > Am I in the wrong list with this question? > > Mar 13 01:16:18 ns spamd[28893]: processing message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for web321p1:104. > > Mar 13 01:16:20 ns spamd[28893]

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Loren Wilton
> I have just received spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there a test which identifies that the description (Esmeralada > Bouchard) bears no resemblance to the given sender's address? No. Because there is no possibly way of knowing that [EMAIL PROTECTED] really isn't "Johnny P. Spammer". > Simil

Re: Is there such a test?

2005-03-15 Thread Loren Wilton
> I would also like to be able to pick out those from "Microsoft Support" > which are not from microsoft.com and other typical phishing mails. Now there you are on easier ground. SARE has several rules to catch phish that are based on this sort of thing. Loren