The other side of whitelists - arbitrary blacklists

2009-12-20 Thread jdow
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7780 It can be quite frustrating to run an ISP and comply with the often arbitrary, strange, and I suspect contradictory demands of the likes of SORBS and Trend Micro. An ISP Abuse handler vents in this article. {^_^}

Re: The other side of whitelists - arbitrary blacklists

2009-12-20 Thread Res
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7780 It can be quite frustrating to run an ISP and comply with the often arbitrary, strange, and I suspect contradictory demands of the likes of SORBS and Trend Micro. An ISP Abuse handler vents in this article. SORBS

Re: The other side of whitelists - arbitrary blacklists

2009-12-20 Thread Per Jessen
Res wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7780 It can be quite frustrating to run an ISP and comply with the often arbitrary, strange, and I suspect contradictory demands of the likes of SORBS and Trend Micro. An ISP Abuse handler vents in this

Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: More unfortunately, privacy concerns prevent me from building a useful corpus of ham. Sigh But otherwise such a good idea Can you not trust yourself to use your own ham? You don't need to provide us with your mail. You can scan your own

Re: ABORT PROPOSED: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1.proposed1

2009-12-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Warren, for the next releases until RTM, can we keep the spamassassin.spec at real_version 3.0.0 instead of adding the release type? I usually do a full make and make test run, but then build an rpm and install that. If the real_version contains non-digits other than a dot that fails, so each

Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/20/2009 09:20 AM, Charles Gregory wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: More unfortunately, privacy concerns prevent me from building a useful corpus of ham. Sigh But otherwise such a good idea Can you not trust yourself to use your own ham? You don't need to

Re: Dear Santa

2009-12-20 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:06:11 -0600 Dave Pooser dave...@pooserville.com wrote: share the code so that some of us could auto-generate rules based on our own ham/spam mailstreams, and then share those rules with you for possible SOUGHT inclusion? I think that's already done, though not well

Re: The other side of whitelists - arbitrary blacklists

2009-12-20 Thread Res
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, Per Jessen wrote: SORBS would only put you in their DUL listing for anything resembling hosts that are dynamic, AFAIK, also ranges that were declared to by dynamic, e.g. in whois info. I once had a range allocated which had previously been declared to be dynamic, and it

Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread jdow
From: Charles Gregory cgreg...@hwcn.org Sent: Sunday, 2009/December/20 06:20 On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: More unfortunately, privacy concerns prevent me from building a useful corpus of ham. Sigh But otherwise such a good idea Can you not trust yourself to use your

Re: oh where oh where...

2009-12-20 Thread Jo Rhett
On Dec 19, 2009, at 9:23 AM, RobertH wrote: you know, with all the duking it out on the list over some methods and such, where is Jo Rhett when you need him? he was always short and to the point... :-) Eh? Whut? (in the manner of someone woken from sleep) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance :

Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: I'm just a touch naive here; but, it seems to me it should be possible, somehow, to build running spamd daemons, one with the regular rules and one with the mass check rules. There's nothing special about masscheck rules. Masscheck is just running the current

Re: [sa] Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: The downside is that this is not confirmed ham and confirmed spam. (nod) Exactly. And that is what is needed to do a masscheck... I wonder how much companies would pay for a part time SpamAssassin honcho who can be trusted (bonded?) and can write SARE-ish

RE: oh where oh where...

2009-12-20 Thread RobertH
:-) Eh? Whut? (in the manner of someone woken from sleep) -- Jo Rhett Jo, sometimes we just need some input from you... overall though, i am guessing that you havent needed anything special from the list for a lllooonnn time - rh

Re: oh where oh where...

2009-12-20 Thread Jo Rhett
On Dec 20, 2009, at 10:12 PM, RobertH wrote: sometimes we just need some input from you... I'm sure that this isn't true of all participants ;-) overall though, i am guessing that you havent needed anything special from the list for a lllooonnn time Nope. It works. I'm