Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Per Jessen
Mariusz Kruk wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 23:20 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: I'm interested in people's opinion of UCEPROTECT. I'm aware of how it works, but even UCEPROTECT1 seems to catch an awful lot of ham, and I wondered if I was doing something wrong. Yes, UCEPROTECT seems to be

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 09:12 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: I'm interested in people's opinion of UCEPROTECT. I'm aware of how it works, but even UCEPROTECT1 seems to catch an awful lot of ham, and I wondered if I was doing something wrong. Yes, UCEPROTECT seems to be just a big scam. A

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Per Jessen
Mariusz Kruk wrote: Every respectable RBL has _clear_ rules of 1. Listing Hmm, I'm not so sure - how about spamcop, surbl, uribl, spamhaus? Their rules are exactly as clear or unclear as those of uceprotect. http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=3s=3 I too _would_ like to know how the

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:31 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: Every respectable RBL has _clear_ rules of 1. Listing Hmm, I'm not so sure - how about spamcop, surbl, uribl, spamhaus? Their rules are exactly as clear or unclear as those of uceprotect. First of all, you have (for example on spamcop):

Re: Problems sending Abuse mails to Twitter

2009-11-27 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann wrote: I could find your IP (82.113.106.21) on these lists : ... ... ... IP of your server (62.231.42.10) I found on these lists : blocked.secnap.net127.0.0.2 countries.nerd.dk 127.0.0.1 ips.backscatterer.org 127.0.0.2 Being

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Per Jessen
Mariusz Kruk wrote: But yes, some other RBL's have also unclear rules - I admit. Yet, the delisting is kinda different isn't it? Yes, but that has not been a problem for me so far. As far as I can tell, the automatic process also works very well. - which is why I don't block with

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Alex wrote: I'm interested in people's opinion of UCEPROTECT. I'm aware of how it works, but even UCEPROTECT1 seems to catch an awful lot of ham, and I wondered if I was doing something wrong. On 26.11.09 23:09, Per Jessen wrote: Don't use UCEPROTECT for catching, only for scoring.

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.11.09 17:12, Allen Chen wrote: I didn't touch my spamassassin server for almost one year. It's still running and filtering spam without any problems. But I think things are changed a lot. I'm using 3.2.4. So I am asking which free RBLs you guys are still using. first upgrade to 3.2.5.

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Alex wrote: I'm interested in people's opinion of UCEPROTECT. I'm aware of how it works, but even UCEPROTECT1 seems to catch an awful lot of ham, and I wondered if I was doing something wrong. On 26.11.09 23:09, Per Jessen wrote: Don't use UCEPROTECT for

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 12:27 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 26.11.09 17:12, Allen Chen wrote: I didn't touch my spamassassin server for almost one year. It's still running and filtering spam without any problems. But I think things are changed a lot. I'm using 3.2.4. So I am

Re: UCEPROTECT questions

2009-11-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Alex wrote: I'm interested in people's opinion of UCEPROTECT. I'm aware of how it works, but even UCEPROTECT1 seems to catch an awful lot of ham, and I wondered if I was doing something wrong. On 26.11.09 23:09, Per Jessen wrote: Don't use UCEPROTECT for catching, only for

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.11.09 17:12, Allen Chen wrote: I didn't touch my spamassassin server for almost one year. It's still running and filtering spam without any problems. But I think things are changed a lot. I'm using 3.2.4. So I am asking which free RBLs you guys are still using. On Fri,

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:03 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Why do you tell me? Tell the OP, I just have used the same terminology. Matus, why are you once more sending me off list replies? Again, will you *please* keep your replies *ON LIST*. I pointed out that RBL is trademark just to

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Robert Braver
On Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:12:57 PM, Allen Chen wrote: AC I didn't touch my spamassassin server for almost one year. It's AC still running and filtering spam without any problems. But I AC think things are changed a lot. I'm using 3.2.4. So I am asking AC which free RBLs you guys are still

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 27 nov 2009 16:47:54 CET, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote Matus, why are you once more sending me off list replies? Again, will you *please* keep your replies *ON LIST*. priceless reply-to -- xpoint

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 17:17 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: On fre 27 nov 2009 16:47:54 CET, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote Matus, why are you once more sending me off list replies? Again, will you *please* keep your replies *ON LIST*. priceless reply-to Priceless indeed. Everybody else can

Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Martijn Grooten
All, a few months back, there was a discussion on this list about the VBSpam comparative anti-spam tests[1], in which SpamAssassin performed significantly worse than many commercial products. Now I run these tests and I believe something was the matter with (the installation of) SA that made it

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Allen Chen
Robert Braver wrote: On Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:12:57 PM, Allen Chen wrote: AC I didn't touch my spamassassin server for almost one year. It's AC still running and filtering spam without any problems. But I AC think things are changed a lot. I'm using 3.2.4. So I am asking AC which free

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 27 nov 2009 18:08:23 CET, Allen Chen wrote DNSBLs. We are non-profit organization and don't have too much email traffic. install bind, check spamhaus dnsbl in sendmail, add more internal spam tests in sendmail, dont add to much dnsbl in sendmail, and i have found spamcop is more for

Re: which free RBL do you use?

2009-11-27 Thread Robert Braver
On Friday, November 27, 2009, 11:08:23 AM, Allen Chen wrote: AC Thanks for all the replies. yes, RBL, I mean DNSBL. Also I heard AC that configuring DNSBL in sendmail is better than in AC spammassassin. because this can release some loads on AC spamassassin. Am I right? For some DNSBLs, yes.

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Martijn, I may be missing something here but I went to your website and you use the terms malware and spam interchangeably. Now, it may be true that these days in the commercial realm that the antivirus vendors are all jumping into the anti-spam market to enhance revenue, but in reality,

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Ned Slider
Martijn Grooten wrote: - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; I'm not in any way trying to jump on what you're trying to do as I

Re: Undisclosed recipients :; -- again

2009-11-27 Thread Philip A. Prindeville
John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, LuKreme wrote: On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:05, Philip Prindeville philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com wrote: I want to block all messages that I'm getting that have: To: undisclosed recipients: ; undisclosed recipients is used for Bcc: mail I used it

Re: Need help running SA in a (comparative) anti-spam test

2009-11-27 Thread Alex
Hi, - I'm happy to add any extensions as long as these are also free and open source -- note that our 'target audience' includes big ISPs and unfortunately for them things as Spamhaus's RBL aren't free; Do the commercial vendors get to use publically-available DNSBLs like zen? If so, and

Re: Undisclosed recipients :; -- again

2009-11-27 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: header __L_UNDISCLOSED1 To:raw =~ /undisclosed-recipients: ;/ Just how do I go about figuring out what the To:raw value is (for example)? header __TO_RAW To:raw =~ /.+/ If you're analyzing something that may have multiple

Re: Undisclosed recipients :; -- again

2009-11-27 Thread Philip A. Prindeville
John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: header __L_UNDISCLOSED1 To:raw =~ /undisclosed-recipients: ;/ Just how do I go about figuring out what the To:raw value is (for example)? header __TO_RAW To:raw =~ /.+/ If you're analyzing something that may