Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread smfabac
RW-15 wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:51:12 + RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:17:54 -0800 (PST) smfabac smfa...@att.net wrote: Mark, On UNIX any file is a mbox file if it contains mail messages in the form: ^A^A^A^A mail headers

Re: MTX plugin created (Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage)

2010-02-13 Thread Per Jessen
Justin Mason wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:00, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: http://www.chaosreigns.com/mtx/ It might be useful to compare with MTA MARK and see what the status of that proposal currently is: http://tools.ietf.org/draft/draft-stumpf-dns-mtamark/

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: Now that we're all on the same page. How do I find out why sa-learn is not processing the legal not-spam file? To re-cap, sa-learn --spam --mbox isspam works but sa-learn --ham --mbox not-spam is not working. Well, I would expect if this suggestion were

Re: MTX plugin created (Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage)

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Per Jessen wrote: Justin Mason wrote: It might be useful to compare with MTA MARK and see what the status of that proposal currently is: http://tools.ietf.org/draft/draft-stumpf-dns-mtamark/ Amazing. Justin, you must have known about that one - you can't possibly have

Re: X-Spam-Languages always blank?

2010-02-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
I still need to do some debugging as it works sometimes so it looks like it's setup properly. just don't understand why when it said possibly en in the debug log why the language wasn't populated but in some other cases it is being populated. On Feb 12, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Matt Kettler wrote:

Re: X-Spam-Languages always blank?

2010-02-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
I'm going thru debug with version 3.3.0 and I see it definately puts the X-Languages metadata in place but even with the add_header line that I have it leaves X-Spam-Languages unpopulated 500:@matches = classify(\$body, $opts-{conf}, %skip); DB2 n Feb 13 08:30:23.876 [56907] dbg:

Re: SA 3.30 question: redundant index in bayes?

2010-02-13 Thread David Morton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler wrote: A quick diff of the 3.2 and 3.3 versions of these files shows this table was changed: CREATE TABLE bayes_token ( id int(11) NOT NULL default '0', token char(5) NOT NULL default '', spam_count int(11) NOT NULL

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread smfabac
Charles Gregory wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: Now that we're all on the same page. How do I find out why sa-learn is not processing the legal not-spam file? To re-cap, sa-learn --spam --mbox isspam works but sa-learn --ham --mbox not-spam is not working. Well, I would

Re: SA 3.30 question: redundant index in bayes?

2010-02-13 Thread Henrik K
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:33:08AM -0600, David Morton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler wrote: A quick diff of the 3.2 and 3.3 versions of these files shows this table was changed: CREATE TABLE bayes_token ( id int(11) NOT NULL default '0',

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.02.10 09:17, smfabac wrote: On UNIX any file is a mbox file if it contains mail messages in the form: ^A^A^A^A mail headers mail body ^A^A^A^A ^A^A^A^A Next Message mail headers mail body ^A^A^A^A mmdf, not mbox. And my not-spam file meets this requirement: ^A^A^A^A

Re: X-Spam-Languages always blank?

2010-02-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.02.10 08:08, Robert Nicholson wrote: I still need to do some debugging as it works sometimes so it looks like it's setup properly. just don't understand why when it said possibly en in the debug log why the language wasn't populated but in some other cases it is being populated. How

Re: SA 3.30 question: redundant index in bayes?

2010-02-13 Thread David Morton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik K wrote: So token was both a primary key, and an index, which is redundant. How is that redundant? If you search for only a token, it would not be indexed, and would perform very poorly. As you didn't bother to check SpamAssassin

Re: MTX plugin functionally complete? Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage

2010-02-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02/11, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: So you define the IP 64.71.152.40 as OK when sending mail from @panic.chaosreigns.com. address. so it's the exactly same as panic.chaosreigns.com. IN SPF v=spf1 a:64.71.152.40 -all On 12.02.10 22:24, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: No. MTX

Re: MTX plugin functionally complete? Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage

2010-02-13 Thread Darxus
On 02/13, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: So the only effect of MTX should be confirmation that a machine may send mail? Yes. So why the complicated check for DNS record combining DNS name and IP? Why not simply requesting that machine has a mail or smtp in its DNS name? I answered that

Re: MTX plugin functionally complete? Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage

2010-02-13 Thread mouss
dar...@chaosreigns.com a écrit : On 02/13, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: So the only effect of MTX should be confirmation that a machine may send mail? Yes. So why the complicated check for DNS record combining DNS name and IP? Why not simply requesting that machine has a mail or smtp

Outbound SPAM filter

2010-02-13 Thread shawnbor
Hello all, I'm having trouble getting my mail server to scan outbound emails for spam, incoming works fine (in as much as that it captures spammy email). Any feedback would be appreciated. My setup as follows: FreeBSD 6 postfix 2.3.2 amavisd-new 2.4.2 spamassassin 3.1.3 mysql 5 conf

Re: SA 3.30 question: redundant index in bayes?

2010-02-13 Thread Matt Kettler
On 2/13/2010 11:33 AM, David Morton wrote: So token was both a primary key, and an index, which is redundant. How is that redundant? If you search for only a token, it would not be indexed, and would perform very poorly. Because it is the primary key, which is by definition, an index!!!

Re: MTX plugin functionally complete? Re: Spam filtering similar to SPF, less breakage

2010-02-13 Thread Darxus
On 02/13, mouss wrote: dar...@chaosreigns.com a écrit : did you take a look at CSA http://mipassoc.org/csv/draft-ietf-marid-csv-csa-02.txt I had not, thanks. Looks like it ties the helo domain to the delivering IP, breaking (broken) forwarding just like SPF? Anyway, such approaches

Re: SA 3.30 question: redundant index in bayes?

2010-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Matt Kettler wrote: On 2/13/2010 11:33 AM, David Morton wrote: So token was both a primary key, and an index, which is redundant. How is that redundant? If you search for only a token, it would not be indexed, and would perform very poorly. Because it is the primary

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: Is there a message size limit for sa-learn? Yes, there is, and sadly sa-learn does not explicitly tell you a message has been skipped because it's too large. If there's a non-text attachment try deleteing it and re-learning the message. -- John

sa-update fails: daryl.dostech...404

2010-02-13 Thread jidanni
$ sa-update http: GET http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/909775.tar.gz request failed: 404 Not Found

spamassassin script is v3.003000, but using modules v3.004000

2010-02-13 Thread jidanni
Help, I dared to update from SVN, and now spamassassin refuses to run: $ svn update $ make install $ sa-update --install by hand the newest files I could find on http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/ $ spamassassin spamassassin: spamassassin script is v3.003000, but using modules v3.004000

Re: spamassassin script is v3.003000, but using modules v3.004000

2010-02-13 Thread Mark Martinec
On Sunday February 14 2010 01:02:10 jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Help, I dared to update from SVN, and now spamassassin refuses to run: $ svn update $ make install The usual procedure is: perl Makefile.PL; make; make test; make install $ sa-update --install by hand the newest files I could

Re: spamassassin script is v3.003000, but using modules v3.004000

2010-02-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
How many spamassassin's do you have? Isn't it saying the script in bin isn't matching the modules in lib On Feb 13, 2010, at 6:02 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Help, I dared to update from SVN, and now spamassassin refuses to run: $ svn update $ make install $ sa-update --install by hand

Re: X-Spam-Languages always blank?

2010-02-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
I think I've solved this issue already. I had the add_header etc but I hadn't yet enabled the TextCat plugin. On Feb 13, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 13.02.10 08:08, Robert Nicholson wrote: I still need to do some debugging as it works sometimes so it looks like it's

Why does svn update pull in Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0.tar.gz?

2010-02-13 Thread jidanni
Why does svn update pull in Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0.tar.gz? That's not how things work with Mediawiki.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: $ sa-learn --showdots --ham --mbox notspam Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined) Still no luck. Are we sure the notspam file is clean? Try trimming it down to just one or two messages, and see how it goes - C

Re: spamassassin script is v3.003000, but using modules v3.004000

2010-02-13 Thread jidanni
Maybe they changed something. In the past perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$HOME/.spamassassin-tree also took care of where bin/spamassassin went. Now it seems left behind, due to this suspicious commented out code? # needs to be added to MY::install if used #bin__install: $(INST_SCRIPT)/sa-filter #