Portable Executables that end in .gif/.jpg

2018-03-03 Thread Alex
Hi,

I'm curious what people use to avoid malware executable being bypassed
because their extensions are typically associated with file types that
are not normally executable?

https://twitter.com/jepayneMSFT/status/969742842410094593

Do you just rely on clamav? Do you do any types of checks of the
actual bytes in the file to confirm they're in line with what that
file type should be?

How would this even present itself in an email?


Re: IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-03 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/03/2018 23:45, David Jones wrote:

> On 03/03/2018 05:54 AM, Noel Butler wrote: On 03/03/2018 11:40, John Hardin 
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, Noel Butler wrote:
> 
> On 03/03/2018 04:40, John Hardin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote:
> 
> -0.2 RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS  RBL: IADB: Sender has reverse DNS record
> [199.127.240.84 listed in iadb.isipp.com]
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF   RBL: IADB: Sender publishes SPF record
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in
> -0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID  RBL: IADB: Sender publishes Sender ID record
> -0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_LISTEDRBL: Participates in the IADB system
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_DKRBL: IADB: Sender publishes Domain Keys record
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_VOUCHED   RBL: ISIPP IADB lists as vouched-for sender
> 
> I am concerned when the default settings in SA effectively facilitate 
> marketing companies to stuff my Inbox full of junk. 
> -0.6 points makes the difference?
> 
> Perhaps the default scores need to be reviewed, but simply having the
> rules isn't problematic.

Have to agree with him, it can make all the difference in some cases,
I'd prefer to see the rules stay, but all at score 0 
If you have properly tuned SA for your mail flow and added local
rules/plugins, these default IADB scores should not cause real spam to
score under the default 5.0 threshold.

>> -0.001 surely... 0 = disabled = breaks dependencies.
> That would be acceptable :)

Some us have very fine tuned SA's, and use less than 5.0 which was
acceptable 10 years ago, but not in recent times, so a few .1's can mean
user gets spam, V user doesnt get spam - I know what I prefer. 

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Re: The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-03-03 Thread Benny Pedersen

John Hardin skrev den 2018-03-03 19:28:


This is why the DecodeShortURLs plugin has an explicit limit of 10
lookups (and penalizes such with a total of 8 points).
I’d guess more than one redirect is highly suspicious and more than 
two is probably a waste of time, just score 5.0 and be done with it.

+1


add blacklist internaly to DecodeShortURLs plugin, and reduce redirector 
list to who support abuse reports only


bit.ly is safe to test


Re: The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-03-03 Thread John Hardin

On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, @lbutlr wrote:


On Feb 26, 2018, at 09:55, sha...@shanew.net wrote:


This is why the DecodeShortURLs plugin has an explicit limit of 10
lookups (and penalizes such with a total of 8 points).


I’d guess more than one redirect is highly suspicious and more than two is 
probably a waste of time, just score 5.0 and be done with it.


+1

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Re: IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-03 Thread David Jones

On 03/03/2018 05:54 AM, Noel Butler wrote:

On 03/03/2018 11:40, John Hardin wrote:


On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, Noel Butler wrote:


On 03/03/2018 04:40, John Hardin wrote:


On Fri, 2 Mar 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote:


-0.2 RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS  RBL: IADB: Sender has reverse DNS record
[199.127.240.84 listed in iadb.isipp.com]
-0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF   RBL: IADB: Sender publishes SPF record
-0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in
-0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID  RBL: IADB: Sender publishes Sender ID record
-0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_LISTEDRBL: Participates in the IADB system
-0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_DKRBL: IADB: Sender publishes Domain Keys record
-0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_VOUCHED   RBL: ISIPP IADB lists as vouched-for sender

I am concerned when the default settings in SA effectively 
facilitate marketing companies to stuff my Inbox full of junk.


-0.6 points makes the difference?

Perhaps the default scores need to be reviewed, but simply having the
rules isn't problematic.


Have to agree with him, it can make all the difference in some cases,
I'd prefer to see the rules stay, but all at score 0




If you have properly tuned SA for your mail flow and added local 
rules/plugins, these default IADB scores should not cause real spam to 
score under the default 5.0 threshold.



-0.001 surely... 0 = disabled = breaks dependencies.


That would be acceptable :)


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Re: The "goo.gl" shortner is OUT OF CONTROL (+ invaluement's response)

2018-03-03 Thread @lbutlr
On Feb 26, 2018, at 09:55, sha...@shanew.net wrote:
> 
> This is why the DecodeShortURLs plugin has an explicit limit of 10
> lookups (and penalizes such with a total of 8 points).

I’d guess more than one redirect is highly suspicious and more than two is 
probably a waste of time, just score 5.0 and be done with it. 

Has anyone done any analysis on multi-redirects?

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Re: IADB whitelist - again

2018-03-03 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/03/2018 11:40, John Hardin wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, Noel Butler wrote:
> 
> On 03/03/2018 04:40, John Hardin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2018, Sebastian Arcus wrote:
> 
> -0.2 RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS  RBL: IADB: Sender has reverse DNS record
> [199.127.240.84 listed in iadb.isipp.com]
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF   RBL: IADB: Sender publishes SPF record
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in
> -0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID  RBL: IADB: Sender publishes Sender ID record
> -0.0 RCVD_IN_IADB_LISTEDRBL: Participates in the IADB system
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_DKRBL: IADB: Sender publishes Domain Keys record
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_IADB_VOUCHED   RBL: ISIPP IADB lists as vouched-for sender
> 
> I am concerned when the default settings in SA effectively facilitate 
> marketing companies to stuff my Inbox full of junk. 
> -0.6 points makes the difference?
> 
> Perhaps the default scores need to be reviewed, but simply having the
> rules isn't problematic.

Have to agree with him, it can make all the difference in some cases,
I'd prefer to see the rules stay, but all at score 0 
-0.001 surely... 0 = disabled = breaks dependencies.

That would be acceptable :)  

(I usually disable all whitelists anyway, especially those scoring
influentially) 

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