Re: : 9D character used in words to avoid detection

2018-11-21 Thread RW
|\xe2\x80\x8c) > > That makes an *enormous* difference: > > https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20181121-r1847080-n/UNICODE_OBFU_ZW/detail > > Without the normalized version it was only hitting ~5 spams in the > entire corpus. I presume the mass checks run with defaults, w

Re: DKIMWL_WL_MED spams

2018-11-21 Thread David Jones
On 11/21/18 12:13 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > Hello, > > I have recently noticed spams spreading via amasonses.com and outlook.com. > hitting DKIMWL_WL_MED that pushed score below threshold. > > especially amazonses.com mail seemed to be amazon cloud servers. > > Has anyone noticed this

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Rupert Gallagher
The "right to be forgotten" is the natural outcome of three decades of self-inflicted pain. Some argue that deleting old e-mails is like re-writing history. Other, like me, argue that e-mail was born as an informal medium, different than, for example, a published book or factual evidence of a

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Bill Cole > wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2018, at 13:03, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > >> Except for the private right of action provided in GDPR, and small claims >> court in the U.S. > > Are you saying an EU law can create an actionable civil tort claim in a US

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Benny Pedersen wrote: > Kevin Miller wrote: > > My particular favorite fix is, if the mail list has a web preferences > > page, to go to there and edit the preferences then set the email address > > to postmaster@localhost. Now it's their problem. > > If thay test fqdn it Will be your problem >

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 21 Nov 2018, at 13:03, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: Except for the private right of action provided in GDPR, and small claims court in the U.S. Are you saying an EU law can create an actionable civil tort claim in a US state small claims court for actions which are not illegal under any

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
P.S. I should have added: the whole jurisdiction issue is, clinically speaking, one of the most interesting parts of GDPR. I've never seen a law that so broadly asserted that the country or union from which the law was promulgated will enforce it anywhere and everywhere - it's pretty damned

DKIMWL_WL_MED spams

2018-11-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, I have recently noticed spams spreading via amasonses.com and outlook.com. hitting DKIMWL_WL_MED that pushed score below threshold. especially amazonses.com mail seemed to be amazon cloud servers. Has anyone noticed this too? I have disabled DKIMWL_WL_MED for now. -- Matus UHLAR -

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > > There is no reason for anyone without a commercial presence in the EU or CH > to be concerned with GDPR. Except for the private right of action provided in GDPR, and small claims court in the U.S. And, for entities that spam enough

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> John Hardin kirjoitti 21.11.2018 kello 18.52: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Bill Cole wrote: > >> On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:56, @lbutlr wrote: >> >>> While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because >>> of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> John Hardin kirjoitti 21.11.2018 kello 18.52: > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Bill Cole wrote: > >> On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:56, @lbutlr wrote: >> >>> While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because >>> of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck

Re: : 9D character used in words to avoid detection

2018-11-21 Thread John Hardin
For this to work with 'normalize_charset 1', \x9d needs to be replaced with (?:\x9d|\xe2\x80\x8c) That makes an *enormous* difference: https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20181121-r1847080-n/UNICODE_OBFU_ZW/detail Without the normalized version it was only hitting ~5 spams in the entire corpus. -- John

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:41, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: The email address is an address, part of your personally identifiable data. I'm not disputing that. I write software that deals with PII in my day

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Bill Cole wrote: On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:56, @lbutlr wrote: While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck unexpectedly asking for a confirmation, but still I’d like to avoid this

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:56, @lbutlr wrote: While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck unexpectedly asking for a confirmation, but still I’d like to avoid this happening again. Nov 20 10:20:34 mail

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 21 Nov 2018, at 9:03, Rupert Gallagher wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:41, John Hardin wrote: [...] The US is not a signatory to the GDPR as far as I am aware, and I have *no* legal presence outside the US. The US signed a bilateral agreement with the EU:

Re: Sought Rules

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 21 Nov 2018, at 4:04, @lbutlr wrote: The page at https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ImproveAccuracy lists Sought rules as recommended. The link leads to https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules which states "this is no longer active, and should not be used.” Fixed.

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread Kris Deugau
@lbutlr wrote: While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck unexpectedly asking for a confirmation, but still I’d like to avoid this happening again. Nov 20 10:20:34 mail postfix/pipe[73448]:

Re: Lost mail during update

2018-11-21 Thread Daniele Duca
On 21/11/18 07:56, @lbutlr wrote: While updating spamassassin, several emails were destructive lost because of the absence of spamc. To be fair, the date did get stuck unexpectedly asking for a confirmation, but still I’d like to avoid this happening again. Nov 20 10:20:34 mail

Re: semi-OT - reporting an organization that ignores unsubscribe requests

2018-11-21 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:41, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> The email address is an address, part of your personally identifiable >> data. > > I'm not disputing that. I write software that deals with PII in my day job. > >> If an identifiable entity in

Sought Rules

2018-11-21 Thread @lbutlr
The page at https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ImproveAccuracy lists Sought rules as recommended. The link leads to https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SoughtRules which states "this is no longer active, and should not be used.” -- "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity