alpha2? beta1?

2009-07-30 Thread Warren Togami
Could we please schedule a desired date to release the next pre-release of 3.3.0? Time based releases help us to stay on track. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

.cn domain age query?

2009-09-14 Thread Warren Togami
good way to query for the age of a domain? Unfortunately it seems whois is too slow and the text format is non-standard. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: NOTICE: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 mass-checks now starting

2009-09-16 Thread Warren Togami
-- 79101 2009/09/14 22:13:02 spam-bayes-net-wt-jp1.log -rw-r--r-- 311 2009/09/14 22:23:08 spam-bayes-net-wt-jp2.log One day from the deadline for spamassassin-3.3.0 scoring and we currently have only three people reporting. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: NOTICE: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 mass-checks now starting

2009-09-16 Thread Warren Togami
for this one-time rescoring masscheck. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/NightlyMassCheck If you want to participate in nightly masscheck you should request your own account. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: NOTICE: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 mass-checks now starting

2009-09-17 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/16/2009 11:25 PM, Justin Mason wrote: excellent. That's 2 people who could do with an extension, then! Could we state with clarity the new deadline? I might have other people with data depending on the extended deadline.

Re: NOTICE: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 mass-checks now starting

2009-09-17 Thread Warren Togami
be whitelisted from PSBL by either listing itself in DNSWL, or letting us know to check it by SPF or DKIM. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: NOTICE: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 mass-checks now starting

2009-09-19 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/16/2009 11:47 AM, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/04/2009 10:51 AM, Justin Mason wrote: OK, if you're planning to send us mass-check logs for the 3.3.0 rescoring, now's the time! http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RescoreDetails has all the details. cheers! --j. -rw-r--r-- 174911850 2009

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Warren

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-09-23 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/23/2009 12:58 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/23/2009 12:36 PM, Jose Luis Marin Perez wrote: 3. Add SARE rules Why is anyone still using SARE rules when they haven't been updated for years? Because they still get hits? I get fairly good

Re: Use message size in a rule?

2009-09-26 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/26/2009 06:25 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 12:10 -0500, Rich Graves wrote: The bigger picture: I'm working on some ISP/.edu phishing rules inspired by the old 419 rules... lots of words and short phrases indicating an attempt to get our account information (either

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-27 Thread Warren Togami
? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-28 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/28/2009 01:32 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Warren Togami wrote: On 07/09/2009 09:57 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: For what it's worth I'm now ahead of Barracuda on Jeff Makey's blacklist comparison chart. Not a scientific comparison but it's about all there is to compare blacklists. Now only

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-28 Thread Warren Togami
during masschecks? If not then the two largest servers doing masschecks could probably use rsync access to your data. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com I think I have a lot of capacity. I suppose we'll see. I should be able to handle the load. If not then I'll find out. BTW - if JEF were included

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-28 Thread Warren Togami
referring to the same thing. Perhaps we should call it JMF to avoid confusion? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-28 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/28/2009 06:53 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Warren Togami wrote: On 09/28/2009 01:32 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: I'd be interested in how well it worked. Is there anything I need to do to help? http://wiki.junkemailfilter.com/index.php/Spam_DNS_Lists Could you provide a URL redirector

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-28 Thread Warren Togami
so, but I think it is only to stop testing rules if the score goes beyond a certain point. Please file a separate bug for this if it is important to you. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Hostkarma Blacklist Climbing the Charts

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
it is a lot more certain than a mere whitelist, having done cryptographic checking on the DKIM signature to verify that the domain is both known non-spammer and it is not spoofed. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 10:23 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR Brown I'm willing go go with whatever name works better for the community. I will change my wiki to be consistent. Hi Marc, I appreciate your desire for

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice. RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL

DNSWL and JMF White false positives, what to do exactly?

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
senders? I'd attach it to mail but it might get caught in the spam filter... Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 12:50 PM, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice. RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
old JMF rules. I will decide later after we hear more opinions. http://hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com/ Will this be a working redirector in the near future? There is no point in naming it HOSTKARMA if none of the URL's have hostkarma in their name. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/30/2009 12:18 AM, R-Elists wrote: Marc, Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions are split here. Warren warren, marc already decided once, please dont give more choices... you should have thought that

Re: Hostkarma: to be or not to be in SA defaults

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
weight than arguing about trivial naming or BL colours These are good questions. I am only proposing at this point putting this DNSBL into the sandbox so it can be tested against the corpa and we can get some real statistics. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Hostkarma: to be or not to be in SA defaults

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/30/2009 12:32 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: I have a lot of mighty servers set up ad have servers at 4 locations. I have 50mb bought and using about 30 of it now. I am not sure what it takes to support a default SA inclusion. Does anyone know if what I described sounds like it is enough? You

Re: Hostkarma: to be or not to be in SA defaults

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
people are interested in testing? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

.cn Oddity

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
Last night's masscheck. 63243 out of 124241 spam hits T_CN_URL, nearly 51%. 7263 T_CN_URL hits in 15517 spam corpus 7200 T_CN_8_URL hits in 15517 spam corpus Does this make any sense? This is funny. Could someone add this rule to the sandbox? I'm just curious. Warren Togami wtog

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-10-01 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/01/2009 12:42 PM, jdow wrote: From: Marc Perkel m...@perkel.com Sent: Wednesday, 2009/September/30 16:41 Blaine Fleming wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I like it. RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR Let's go with it. Marc, have you updated

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-01 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/01/2009 01:05 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, jdow wrote: From: John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org Yours may still hit .cn in the path part. May I suggest: m;^https?://[^/?]+\.cn\b; Regardless of their correctness, would you care to expound on the success of these two rules,

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-01 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/01/2009 01:16 PM, Warren Togami wrote: On 10/01/2009 01:05 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, jdow wrote: From: John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org Yours may still hit .cn in the path part. May I suggest: m;^https?://[^/?]+\.cn\b; Regardless of their correctness, would you care

RCVD_VIA_APNIC: CIDR to regex generator?

2009-10-02 Thread Warren Togami
rule on my own corpus I see it is missing some obvious Asian addresses. This page reveals that the regex is out of date. Does there exist a good automated way to convert many CIDR ranges to a single regex? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Daily statistics into email

2009-10-02 Thread Warren Togami
/spamassassin/NightlyMassCheck Here's HOWTO. The documentation is a bit confusing. I'm working on a much simpler version of this. What distro do you use? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-03 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/01/2009 02:36 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote: The Oddity I was pointing out at the beginning of the thread is not prevalence of .cn URI's, but rather most of them appear to be exactly 8 characters long. Could someone please commit my T_CN_8_URL rule

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-03 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/03/2009 05:08 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote: On 10/01/2009 02:36 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote: The Oddity I was pointing out at the beginning of the thread is not prevalence of .cn URI's, but rather most of them

Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

2009-10-03 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/03/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Katz wrote: 8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture. When running these tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the ham before drawing any conclusions. Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I suggest

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-03 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/03/2009 07:11 PM, John Hardin wrote: [^./]{8}\.cn Actually, doesn't this match other characters that shouldn't be in a domain name? ...is _anything_ (apart from periods) excluded from domain names these days? :) Changed to \w{8} for testing. Can you provide examples of needing more

Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

2009-10-04 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/04/2009 12:21 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote: On 10/03/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Katz wrote: 8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture. When running these tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the ham before drawing any

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-04 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/04/2009 04:07 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote: The Oddity I was pointing out at the beginning of the thread is not prevalence of .cn URI's, but rather most of them appear to be exactly 8 characters long. Are there any other .cn domain formats (like {8

Spam Eating Monkey?

2009-10-04 Thread Warren Togami
http://spameatingmonkey.com Anyone have any experience using these DNSBL and URIBL's? Is anyone from this site on this list? I wonder if we should add these rules to the sandbox for masschecks as well. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Uppercase E-mail in Latin America

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
to test it properly. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Babelfish obfuscation

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/05/2009 11:27 AM, John Hardin wrote: Warren: I guess that's an argument against anchoring CN_EIGHT at the beginning of the URI... I wasn't the one that suggested anchoring. Did the old rule decode %2E%63%6E as .cn though? Warren

Re: Uppercase E-mail in Latin America

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/05/2009 02:30 PM, René Berber wrote: Warren Togami wrote: I heard an interesting story from a friend who was working in Mexico for the past few months. Apparently in some Latin American countries, uppercase legitimate person-to-person e-mail is common because it is seen as a sign

Re: Sought Fraud Rule-Set

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
hour. (I know you do, Dan, this goes out to everyone reading this post.) guenther They are really being generated every 4 hours when new patterns can be tested for safety only during the nightly masscheck? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Sought Fraud Rule-Set

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/05/2009 03:52 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:44 -0400, Warren Togami wrote: On 10/05/2009 02:53 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Well, the Sought rule-set (and thus Fraud sub-set) is being re-generated every 4 hours -- with an exception of night-time, UTC

Re: Uppercase E-mail in Latin America

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
OK... asking again, it seems more likely the commonality in people who write mail in all caps is being extremely untechnical, barely able to type, or working for the government. Warren

Re: Uppercase E-mail in Latin America

2009-10-05 Thread Warren Togami
Please excuse me, I used faulty logic. I wasn't asking you anything further. I meant I asked this friend for more details and it seems to be non-technical users is the most likely type of people to type legitimate mail in all caps. Warren

Re: Spam Eating Monkey?

2009-10-06 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/04/2009 09:32 PM, Blaine Fleming wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warren Togami wrote: http://spameatingmonkey.com Anyone have any experience using these DNSBL and URIBL's? Is anyone from this site on this list? I wonder if we should add these rules to the sandbox

Re: Spam Eating Monkey?

2009-10-06 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/06/2009 11:15 PM, Blaine Fleming wrote: Warren Togami wrote: I'll add your existing rules to the Sandbox for testing. Thank you! But have you considered putting all the DNSBL's and URIBL's into aggregated zones so you can cut down on redundant queries? Actually, the uri red list

Harvested Fresh .cn URIBL

2009-10-07 Thread Warren Togami
to proxy whois lookups to bypass rate limits should that become necessary. Opinions of this proposal? Is anyone from PSBL, HOSTKARMA, or SEM interested? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Harvested Fresh .cn URIBL

2009-10-07 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/07/2009 11:27 AM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: We are working on getting .CN zone access. Thats the only way to speed things up. The only challenging part is to get a copy of the CN zone just like we get copy's of other ccTLD/gTLD's. OK, I was under the impression that it was impossible to

Re: Harvested Fresh .cn URIBL

2009-10-07 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/07/2009 03:29 PM, Jason Bertoch wrote: John Hardin wrote: The other part of the problem is determining the age of a domain. The only way to do that absent a registrar feed is to do a whois query, which may or may not return the data you need, and which is considered abusive when

Re: Valid mail from .cn

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Togami
Could you ask them to provide ham samples for the automated masschecks? We currently have none in the corpus so we cannot test the safety of rules against Chinese language mail. Warren

Re: Spam Eating Monkey?

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Togami
http://spameatingmonkey.com/usage.html Are these URI rules really valid syntax? They don't look right, and spamassassin lint rejects them. Warren

Re: Valid mail from .cn

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/09/2009 10:11 PM, MySQL Student wrote: Hi, Could you ask them to provide ham samples for the automated masschecks? We currently have none in the corpus so we cannot test the safety of rules against Chinese language mail. Yes, I know how important that is. I recall you mentioning that

Re: Spam filtering on outgoing email

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/10/2009 11:27 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm thinking about starting a service to filter spam on outgoing email. I was wondering if anyone has any experience doing this and has some advice on how to do it. These customers will be businesses, not freemail customers, and one of the only real

DNSBL Comparison 20091010

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
does it have a high score generated by the GA? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: DNSBL Comparison 20091010

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
can see how well those rules worked for the past week and 2nd week. Those counts are closer to current results. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

DNS Whitelist Comparison 20091010

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
% 4.2489% 0.91 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI 0.0281% 6.9639% 0.90 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED 0.1147% 3.9169% 0.81 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW 0.1982% 6.4736% 0.78 RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

DNSBL Comparison 20091010

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
% 0.0227% 0.52 URIBL_RHS_DOB 0.4689% 0.2365% 0.51 URIBL_GREY 0.0304% 0.0157% 0.50 URIBL_RED SEM_URIRED has a few obvious FP's on facebook, newegg and various bank mail. No time to look further at the moment. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: DNSBL Comparison 20091010

2009-10-10 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/10/2009 09:10 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: On søn 11 okt 2009 02:31:58 CEST, John Rudd wrote On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 16:44, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: Given that zen.spamhaus.org is a combination of XBL and PBL, this data seems to confirm the good reputation of Spamhaus. Er

Re: .cn Oddity

2009-10-11 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/11/2009 02:07 AM, jdow wrote: I have to admire one thing about spammers. They respond very rapidly to threats to their ability to break through spam protection software. You became curious and mentioned this on the date above. Spammers are already using 7 character names.cn. {^_-} Yes,

Postfix Received header FP's and masscheck

2009-10-11 Thread Warren Togami
to write some kind of auth message in the Received line if you had authenticated? Does spamassassin and masscheck have any way to recognize such headers to know to skip that line for rule checks? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Postfix Received header FP's and masscheck

2009-10-11 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/11/2009 09:04 AM, mouss wrote: postfix does so if you authenticated and you have smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes Thanks! This is exactly what I needed to fix my problem. Warren

Re: White lists and white rules

2009-10-12 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/12/2009 09:18 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: For what it's worth there are really only 3 serious white lists on the planet. I'm surprised no one is testing the emailreg list. There are dozens of black lists. Doing white lists is actually easier than doing black lists because there are thousands of

Other DNSBL's

2009-10-16 Thread Warren Togami
comparing? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Constant Contact

2009-10-16 Thread Warren Togami
unsubscribe spam from constantcontact.com or tell them what addresses were being sent. They deserve a hurt reputation if they have a poor anti-spam policy. Unsubscribing only the offending addresses only artificially hides the problem from the statistical analysis without solving it. Warren Togami

Re: Other DNSBL's

2009-10-18 Thread Warren Togami
/20091017-r826198-n/T_RCVD_IN_UBL/detail Tested the Lashback UBL in the Saturday masscheck. 7.9% of spam and 2.3% ham! This blacklist in its current form is dangerous and should not be used. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST

2009-10-19 Thread Warren Togami
lower? KHOP rules contained some useful ideas, but many appeared to be suspect to me so I didn't use it myself. They need to be tested in nightly masscheck to determine their true safety and efficacy. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Do not use openprotect!

2009-10-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/29/2009 11:33 AM, Adam Katz wrote: There are other channels of note, namely 2tld, sought, and my own. I've got a list of channels I recommend on my site (see my sig). How is your registration to be able to commit your rules to masscheck going? I personally wouldn't be comfortable

Re: JMF_W URIBL_BLACK

2009-11-10 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/10/2009 10:59 PM, Alex wrote: This just becomes increasingly important when management drops an email in the Put Spam Here folder for training that clearly isn't spam, but something they've subscribed to, like a newsletter. For the email that even I question sometimes, I'd like to be able

Re: Good reasons to dont use RBLs

2009-11-12 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/12/2009 10:50 PM, LuKreme wrote: On 12-Nov-2009, at 20:41, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: I'd like a brainstorm to convince that a RBL solution is not the best stoping SPAM, and we should look for L7 solution such as Bayes. I reject the notion that spam is a L7 problem. It is more

DNSBL Comparison 20091114

2009-11-15 Thread Warren Togami
: Is Spamcop seriously this bad? It consistently has shown a high false positive rates in these past weeks. Was it safer than this in the past to warrant the current high score in spamassassin-3.2.5? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: DNSBL Comparison 20091114

2009-11-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/15/2009 11:00 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: Warren Togami wrote: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/spamassassin-users/200910.mbox/%3c4ad11c44.9030...@redhat.com%3e Compare this report to a similar report last month. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/NightlyMassCheck The results

Re: DNSBL Comparison 20091114

2009-11-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/15/2009 03:36 PM, Justin Mason wrote: SPAM%HAM%RANK RULE 12.8342% 0.0021% 0.94 RCVD_IN_PSBL * 12.3053% 0.0026% 0.94 RCVD_IN_XBL 31.2499% 0.0827% 0.87 RCVD_IN_ANBREP_BL *2 80.2578% 0.1485% 0.86 RCVD_IN_PBL 27.1836% 0.1985% 0.79 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 19.8213% 0.1785% 0.79

Re: ebay date field is wrong

2009-11-16 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/16/2009 03:04 PM, Per Jessen wrote: I was just wondering if anyone had mentioned this to ebay: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 09 16:42:23 GMT-0700 will hit INVALID_DATE. /Per Jessen, Zürich Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:10:44 -0700 (GMT) This ebay mail to me didn't hit INVALID_DATE. Warren

Re: Back on DNSBL overlap

2009-11-16 Thread Warren Togami
. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: cleanup for DNSBLs

2009-11-23 Thread Warren Togami
On 11/23/2009 07:34 PM, Adam Katz wrote: Unless there are objections, I'm going to add two tests to my sandbox: RCVD_IN_NIX_SPAM, a new (to us) DNSBL populated by the same source as the original [N]iXhash zone, with results on intra2net that look quite promising: 72.98:0.12 spam:ham (PSBL has

ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-beta1 available

2009-12-06 Thread Warren Togami
Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-beta1 is now available for testing. Downloads are available from: http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/ md5sum of archive files: 9b39e4e4fad09cfe9eff974f3d5a01ea Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.tar.bz2 530fb1bd28977271f30b348bc2b68db1

emailreg.org - permission to spamassassin masscheck?

2009-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
://www.emailreg.org/index.cgi?p=usage (from domain).(ip).resl.emailreg.org It seems the preferred method of querying includes both From domain and IP address, which is different from other whitelists. Would we need a new plugin for spamassassin to query in this fashion? Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: emailreg.org - permission to spamassassin masscheck?

2009-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/13/2009 09:34 PM, Robert Fleming wrote: Add the following rules to your SpamAssassin configuration header __RCVD_IN_EMAILREG eval:check_rbl('emailreg-trusted', 'resl.emailreg.org.') header RCVD_IN_EMAILREG_0 eval:check_rbl_sub('emailreg-trusted', '127.0.\d+.0')

Re: emailreg.org - permission to spamassassin masscheck?

2009-12-14 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/14/2009 05:06 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote: Warren Togami wrote: I'm pretty sure this only queries only by IP address. IP address and domain name combined can be significantly more fine grained on some mail providers, so we might be better off waiting until spamassassin is capable of querying

Reminder:: 3.3.0 pre-release cut: December 17th

2009-12-15 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/09/2009 12:22 AM, Warren Togami wrote: I strongly believe in time-based goals as being good to keep the project moving forward. I also believe that 3.3.0 that we have now is of very high quality, certainly far more than 3.2.5. For this reason I want to cut a new pre-release of whatever

Re: Reminder:: 3.3.0 pre-release cut: December 17th

2009-12-16 Thread Warren Togami
for January or February release. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Whitelists, not directly useful to spamassassin...

2009-12-16 Thread Warren Togami
on manual reports and manual intervention requires too much effort in the long-term for any organization, be it company or volunteer run. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Reminder:: 3.3.0 pre-release cut: December 17th

2009-12-16 Thread Warren Togami
http://tinyurl.com/yd8n96m All bugs targeted for 3.3.0. https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6228 Last bug currently P1 priority and considered a blocker. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: Whitelists, not directly useful to spamassassin...

2009-12-17 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/17/2009 11:27 AM, Jason Bertoch wrote: If whitelists are to be enabled by default, I believe their score should be moved considerably more toward zero. /Jason I don't necessarily disagree with this desire, as now we know the whitelists actually are making almost zero difference to

Re: Reminder:: 3.3.0 pre-release cut: December 17th

2009-12-17 Thread Warren Togami
the first cut rc1.proposed1 after the previous discussion. After the 3 day period has passed with no objections then it will be renamed to rc1 and released. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

Re: [sa] Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-18 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/18/2009 04:56 PM, Charles Gregory wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, John Hardin wrote: We hope to get rule scoring and publication much more automated - i.e., if a rule in the sandbox works well based on the automated masschecks, it would be automatically scored and published via sa-update.

PROPOSED: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1.proposed1

2009-12-18 Thread Warren Togami
3.3.0 will be. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com [DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT - NOT YET RELEASED - DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT] Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1 is now available for testing. Downloads are available from: http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/ md5sum of archive files

More Whitelist thoughts...

2009-12-18 Thread Warren Togami
. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com

ABORT Re: PROPOSED: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1.proposed1

2009-12-19 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/18/2009 08:57 PM, Warren Togami wrote: This will be released if we go three days without an objection as per build/README procedure. At that point these archives will be renamed to rc1 and the announcements will go out. Please suggest improvements to this announcement text as well

SEMBLACK warning

2009-12-19 Thread Warren Togami
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20091219-r892451-n/T_RCVD_IN_SEMBLACK/detail SEMBLACK normally is one of the better performing blacklists, but it behaved abnormally in this weekly masscheck. 18.85.2.155 is one IP that was listed, but not listed on any other blacklist. There were many more.

Re: Whitelists in SA

2009-12-20 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/20/2009 09:20 AM, Charles Gregory wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: More unfortunately, privacy concerns prevent me from building a useful corpus of ham. Sigh But otherwise such a good idea Can you not trust yourself to use your own ham? You don't need to

PROPOSED: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1.proposed2

2009-12-22 Thread Warren Togami
suspect there might be a few minor things we might want to polish before 3.3.0 final, but otherwise this is VERY CLOSE to what 3.3.0 will be. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com To: users, dev, announce Subject: ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1 available [DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT - NOT YET RELEASED

ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1 available

2009-12-25 Thread Warren Togami
Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1 is now available for testing. Downloads are available from http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/ md5sum of archive files: 41a68daf1bae2ded652a74c77b1fb498 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-rc1.tar.bz2 e5f1498a02b79ead743504e1f4f0fa89

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-rc1 available

2009-12-25 Thread Warren Togami
On 12/25/2009 05:36 PM, The Doctor wrote: t/basic_lint.t /usr/bin/perl: can't resolve symbol '_Unwind_GetIP' /usr/bin/perl: can't resolve symbol '_Unwind_GetRegionStart' /usr/bin/perl: can't resolve symbol '_Unwind_Resume' /usr/bin/perl: can't resolve symbol

REMINDER: 3.3.0 final cut January 15th, 2010

2010-01-11 Thread Warren Togami
This is a reminder that the 3.3.0 final cut is scheduled for Friday, January 15th. http://tinyurl.com/yd8n96m Please review the bugs. Only priority P1 bugs are considered blockers for 3.3.0. Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com On 12/29/2009 07:27 AM, Justin Mason wrote: +1. I expect

Re: spamassassin bug

2010-01-11 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/11/2010 11:07 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: At the suggestion of a local user I ran 'sa-update -D' to bring my Slackware-12.2 system running SA-3.2.5 up to date. Instead, I just dug myself a hole and fell in by running the above. Sigh. What I see as a result is: [6753] error: check: no

Re: Bayes stopped working

2010-01-17 Thread Warren Togami
. It's also possible there's some issue with the newer Perl. SA 3.3.0 should be coming out next week, you may want to wait and then get that. Or grab the RC (URL is in some recent message by Warren Togami on this list) and try that. Kai Nobody really knows? Who did you ask? Warren

Re: Bayes stopped working

2010-01-17 Thread Warren Togami
On 01/17/2010 04:34 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 15:57 -0500, Casartello, Thomas wrote: Went back to 3.2.5 and that fixed it... Thomas, Please tell Fedora about it / add a bug on Fedora bugzilla. I'm on Fedora 10 and, since updates dried up since the new year, need to

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