Re: How can I catch these?

2008-03-19 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:48:34PM +0100, mouss wrote: Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: [snip] how about something like headerNONFQHELO_DYN1 X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted =~ /^[^\]]+ rdns=\S*[^a-z]{9}\S+ helo=[^\.\s]+ /i score NONFQHELO_DYN1 3.0 describe

Re: How can I catch these?

2008-03-19 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:35:32PM +0100, mouss wrote: Henrik K wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:48:34PM +0100, mouss wrote: Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: [snip] how about something like headerNONFQHELO_DYN1 X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted

Re: How can I catch these?

2008-03-19 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: You are missing the point. It doesn't matter if it's not bringing _you_ anything. The correct method is External. If you don't have any extra trusted_networks set, it works identically no matter which you use. But for those who want to do something that's documented and correct,

Re: How can I catch these?

2008-03-19 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:27:27PM +0100, mouss wrote: If the registrar MX relays mail to you, it should be in internal_networks, thus *-External will match . If it doesn't, then your internal/trusted is set up wrong. I always thought internal meant under my control

Re: russian?

2008-03-21 Thread mouss
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: I just started getting a rush of these, Coincidentally after adding the 50_blogspot and the 30_software rules and running sa-update ftp://ftp.fcimail.org/samples/russian.txt the second one is in its original Unicode ftp://ftp.fcimail.org/samples/russ.txt

Re: uri obfuscation

2008-03-22 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Saturday 22 March 2008 19:52:46 SM wrote: He was referring to the URL that is wrapped into two lines with the quoted-printable encoding. It is parsed correctly. so thats no error or invalid markup? ok well in this case... sorry for the false alert.

Re: uri obfuscation

2008-03-22 Thread mouss
mouss wrote: Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Saturday 22 March 2008 19:52:46 SM wrote: He was referring to the URL that is wrapped into two lines with the quoted-printable encoding. It is parsed correctly. so thats no error or invalid markup? ok well in this case... sorry

Re: SA-UPDATE How often new updates?

2008-03-24 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler wrote: Sn!per wrote: Quoting Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ie: the two most recent for the 3.2 branch are: # sa-update_3.2_20080114123639/ # sa-update_3.2_20080114144817/ Which were both made on January 14th, 2008. I suspect the rest is a timestamp, but I'm not entirely

Re: FreeMail plugin

2008-03-24 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: Henrik K wrote: Hello, I updated my FreeMail plugin with a big list of domains (http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/freemail.html). Try it out: http://sa.hege.li/FreeMail.pm http://sa.hege.li/FreeMail.cf Pretty good hit ratio here, especially when you add some extra

Re: Why two spam assassins rank the same message so differently?

2008-03-24 Thread mouss
V V wrote: My e-mail provider has SpamAssasin-3.2.1 installed. But it ranks many spam messages very differently than my SpamAssasin-3.2.4 on my computer. For example message below is ranked score=2.2 by SpamAssassin-3.2.1 on my provider with failing tests=RCVD_BAD_ID,RDNS_NONE. And the same

Re: SA-UPDATE How often new updates?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: On 24/03/2008 9:34 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: Sn!per wrote: So my cron would look like this then? 00 * * * * /usr/bin/sa-update --gpgkey 6C6191E3 --channel sought.rules.yerp.org --gpgkey D1C035168C1EBC08464946DA258CDB3ABDE9DC10 --channel

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up incorrectly listed in it, good luck getting off it! Case at hand, the

Re: Zen?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
Mike Hatz wrote: Hi, Sorry if this is an old topic, but is Zen from spamhaus still working? sure it is... I used to see entries in my sendmail log along the lines of: 550 Mail from spammer-s machine listed here refused - see http://www.spamhaus.org/lookup.lasso; And I don't see them

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start blocking everything. Is this a new thing? Maybe the maintainers were tired of all

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
ajx wrote: It seems your logic is fundamentally flawed for several reasons. By returning false positives, you're breaking mail gateways that use this once useful service. On the contrary, the best way would be to simply return a DNS host not found error or a connection refused message when a

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
John Rudd wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: I think you're mistaken. Generating all hits does not penalize a good postmaster, because no good postmaster will be using an RBL that's been dead for over a year. That's only specific to this case. I'm talking about from day 1 of the RBL going dark.

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: James Gray writes: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09:47 pm D Hill wrote: Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: From: James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now you are using: From: James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] BOTH of those domains point

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
nws.charlie wrote: I guess I'm one of the mail admin wannabe's... not by choice, but by inheritance. It was turned over to me with almost zero training or experience. :( I found the initial posts clear, and had to wonder at some of the replies myself! Just wanted to say thanks for posting the

Re: OT: uribl.com folks awake?

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
Jonathan Nichols wrote: Sorry for the OT. I've been trying to get in touch with whoever is in charge of URIBL zonefile mirrors without success. Is this thing on? Ping me offlist, por favor. I may have just been pinging the wrong people. you can ask on uribl list: List-Id:

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: [snip] According to SORBS: Netblock:202.147.75.0/26 (202.147.75.0-202.147.75.63) Record Created:Thu May 11 02:23:32 2006 GMT Record Updated:Thu May 11 02:23:32 2006 GMT Additional Information:[MU] Dynamic/Generic IP/rDNS address, use your ISPs mail server or

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: [snip] I didn't ASK FOR HELP! I asked what people's thoughts were on keeping a list like SORBS_DUL in the base/default spamassassin rules. I'm quite capable of fixing the mess I inherited. As long as - it doesn't cause FPs - it helps catch spam - it is free for

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: James Gray wrote: Sorbs sux, don't use it. Last time we had this problem they wanted money (and not an insignificant amount either) to remove a listing from their systems. They arbitrarily add addresses to a database the IP's owner can't control,

Re: What to do about address spoofing

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
R.Smits wrote: Hello, Is there something I can do that our company addresses cannot be used for sending spam ? Is DKIM an answer ? A lot of our users get delivery failed messages. So a spammer is sending spam with our addresses :-( A difficult problem I think ? you can reject (or tag)

Re: Net::DNS .060 allows remote attackers to cause DOS

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
Michael Scheidell wrote: From: http://search.cpan.org/src/OLAF/Net-DNS-0.63/Changes Fix rt.cpan.org #30316 Security issue with Net::DNS Resolver. Net/DNS/RR/A.pm in Net::DNS 0.60 build 654 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (program croak) via a crafted DNS response

Re: Bounce back spam

2008-03-28 Thread mouss
Jeff Koch wrote: Our users are getting inundated with bounce-back, joe-job spam. We have the Vbounce.pm plugin enabled (v3.2.4) and have a 'whitelist_bounce_relays' with the name of the mailserver in the local.cf file and the 'failure notices', 'mail delay' and undeliverables don't seem to

Re: SARE stock

2008-03-29 Thread mouss
Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: Hi! similar to ISBN) I just got an order confirmation from a music book store with a pretty high score Easy fix: In local.cf score SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 0 And we will update the rule also, in my local version of the rule i could not even find that string, so it

Re: ALL_TRUSTED - problem (yes I set trusted_networks already)

2008-03-30 Thread mouss
peter pilsl wrote: Our mailserver is behind a NAT-firewall (port 25 is passed through to the internal mailserver) and I ran into the ALL_TRUSTED-problem. I looked up the FAQ and set trusted_networks 127.0.0.1 (which actually gives me a warning that 127.0.0.1 is already part of

Re: mail from dialups via ISP MTA

2008-03-30 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Hi so again some undertsanding issue, i just got a mail from some gmail user. It got 5.1 points: 1.6 TVD_RCVD_IPTVD_RCVD_IP 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXYRBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [201.20.219.97 listed in

Re: mail from dialups via ISP MTA

2008-04-01 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: and another mail false positive: 2.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?91.151.146.244] 1.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is a abuseable web server

Re: Dramatic increase in bounce messages to forged addresses

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, April 2, 2008 02:06, William Terry wrote: I mostly lurk here, gleaning bits of wisdom from those far more knowledgeable than me, however... i have no clue either :-) I am getting a dramatic increase in bounce messages with my domain forged sent to

Re: vbounce

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Grant Peel wrote: - Original Message - From: Henrik K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:49 AM Subject: Re: vbounce On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:30:37AM +0200, R.Smits wrote: Hi, We have exacly the same issue over here. I am very

Re: how to unsubscribe to this group

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Agnello George wrote: how to unsubscribe to this group grin It is amzaing how many people succeed to subscribe and can't find out how to unsubscribe... /grin a Google search would easily lead to http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists and reading that page shows how to

Re: how to unsubscribe to this group

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Nigel Frankcom wrote: From the headers of all list emails list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org List-Id: users.spamassassin.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org why

Re: Help for Bed-n-Breakfast in Brasil

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Joseph Brennan wrote: --On Wednesday, April 2, 2008 2:45 -0700 Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from k2smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.189.102]) by mx-pigeons.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1jGWCE6yu3Nl34g0 for [EMAIL

Re: Help for Bed-n-Breakfast in Brasil

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Joseph Brennan wrote: [snip] But 72.167.52.118 gave it to 64.202.189.102, and 64.202.189.102 is the mail server that sent it out to the recipient. Client software sends crazy stuff as helo. client software does not insert qmail received headers. The message was submitted on a qmail machine

Re: office rule

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: I was thinking of adding a rule that explicity allows or does a -10 on out of office autoreply as a complete string If possible only do so conditionally. you don't want spam to slip this way. anyway, you'll have a hard time finding all the cases that require

Re: Dramatic increase in bounce messages to forged addresses

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:08, Justin Mason wrote: John Hardin writes: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, William Terry wrote: Is there anything I can do to mitigate this? Do you publish SPF records? Logically this should have an effect, but in

Re: Help for Bed-n-Breakfast in Brasil

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Martin Gregorie wrote: [snip] I use secureserver.net to host my domain name and I also run my own MTA. I don't suffer from this problem, so if he rearranges his setup so it is similar to mine the chances are the problem will go away. As I said, Secureserver.net is my domain host. Apart from

Re: Dramatic increase in bounce messages to forged addresses

2008-04-02 Thread mouss
Jo Rhett wrote: On Apr 2, 2008, at 12:34 PM, mouss wrote: no tuning on your side will help solving problems at the other side. For example, I found that hotmail cache the value Yes, they cache the results of that DNS query for exactly how long you tell them to. This is not my observation

Re: office rule

2008-04-03 Thread mouss
ram wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:23 -0700, Kelson wrote: ram wrote: header __FROMOFFICE From =~/office/i header __SUBOFFICE Subject =~/office/i meta OFFICERULE (__FROMOFFICE || __SUBOFFICE ) score OFFICERULE 4.0 And don't forget to add word boundaries. You probably don't

Re: Dramatic increase in bounce messages to forged addresses

2008-04-03 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Justin Mason wrote: John Hardin writes: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, William Terry wrote: Is there anything I can do to mitigate this? Do you publish SPF records? Logically this should have an effect, but in

Re: Score Definitions

2008-04-03 Thread mouss
SM wrote: The rules catch spam. If your email isn't spam, you shouldn't be matching the rules. Even if you do hit an occasional rule, unless your email actually is spam, it shouldn't score high enough to be a problem. If you are looking for an explanation on how to bypass the rules, you

Re: office rule

2008-04-04 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: mouss wrote: The approach is flawed. a single word shouldn't be enough to tag mail as spam. As a general rule, yes 100% agree...but to play devil's advocate for a second, I slam any message that contains references to a little blue pill starting with V and sounding like

Re: dns tests and scoring info for modification

2008-04-04 Thread mouss
Robert - elists wrote: My searching came up a tad short on this... I am guessing there is a howto already on this, I just didn't find it, so I went digging in the internals some more. Are all tests for DNS type RBL's in this default 20_dnsbl_tests.cf SA file? Do I need to grep all the other

Re: dns tests and scoring info for modification

2008-04-05 Thread mouss
network tests. they are really useful. Mouss I wouldn't I am not concerned with URI tests, I am concerned with dns RBL tests. We already have them off by default as we have another rbl checking system before it hits SA. Much more effective to reject there. I just need to know where all

Re: Blank messages

2008-04-05 Thread mouss
Ed Kasky wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Matt Kettler wrote: SM wrote: At 04:46 04-04-2008, Matt Kettler wrote: However, in this case it looks purely accidental. That appears to be a legitimate HTML document, or at least doesn't appear to be intentionally malformed. In this case, the message

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-09 Thread mouss
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:04, Jonathan Nichols wrote: Guys? He's been joe-jobbed. From the original email: somebody is using my email as the bounce- back return email. How do I avoid the problem? If SPF is supposed to prevent this, I can say that it sure as heck

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-09 Thread mouss
Jonathan Nichols wrote: Yup. Even used the wizard and that exact same verification tool, as well as dnsstuff.com and it reports that the SPF records I added are just fine. Yet, I still got plenty of junk thanks to some russian spammer using my hostmaster@ as the From. :( But back on

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Bob Proulx wrote: decoder wrote: We recently discovered that even our own mailserver (Postfix) was a backscatter source (and 1-2 weeks ago spammers started to actively use it), there were several reasons and I'd like to share these points with the list so nobody does the same mistakes.

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Steve Prior wrote: mouss wrote: But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in these days. Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. The main problem with SPF is that most other servers out there don't

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. mouss wrote: he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in these days. Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. SPF is designed to fix

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 17:16:40 mouss wrote: I personally have found that SPF causes more problems than it helps, and for that I do not recommend setting SPF record for general use domains. mind explaining more detailed? I use SPF on all 300 domains

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Kelson wrote: Who said anything about spam from an authorized source? I was misled by SPF... sorry. The problem *being discussed* is spam with a forged sender address, causing bounce notices to go to an innocent third party. which is caused by accept then bounce implementations,

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Bob Proulx wrote: mouss wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I don't think that any of those should match and therefore is safe by default. the trouble comes from the default (compatibility) value of relay_domains and relay_recipient_maps. For this reason, it is recommended to set

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-11 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.04.08 20:03, mouss wrote: Some sites cache results obtained from DNS beyond DNS TTL. I don't think their DNS server caches the results (though I am willing to accept that there are borked DNS implementations). It's more likely that whatever $thing

Re: filtered by mass hosters

2008-04-12 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, unfortunatly lots of our legitime mails are filtered by mass hosters like web.de and aol. Does anyone have any clue how to find out why? I'm not talking about mass mailing here, just regular mails like this one from exactly the server i am sending from now.

Re: SPF and forwarding best practice

2008-04-14 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Mon, April 14, 2008 00:45, Moritz Borgmann wrote: Now, this setup entails the well-known problem that if X.com publishes an SPF record, SpamAssassin (3.2.4) spanks the message with SPF_FAIL since it checks the first *external* relay (mx.B.com), not the first

Re: is this backscatter or not

2008-04-14 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Hi, I'd like to discuss if returning a mail that went through a mailing list, back to the sender can be described as backscatter. I sent the postmaster a mail becouse they filter mails that contains specific words and send a bounce to the sender. if they can't

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-16 Thread mouss
Graham Murray wrote: mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ahuh? how would spf fix the problem if spam gets out from an authorized client (yahoo, google, hotmail, aol, ...). however you respond, you'll find out that such (ougoing) spam problem isn't fixed _by_ SPF. In particular, don't tell me

Re: False Negatives

2008-04-17 Thread mouss
Koopmann, Jan-Peter wrote: http://pastebin.com/m16055c85 Content analysis details: (9.6 points, 6.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 1.5 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the

Re: Bayesian Learnig for SpamAssassin

2008-04-20 Thread mouss
JasonHirsh wrote: On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 09:46 -0700, JasonHirsh wrote: Matt Kettler-3 wrote: I have SA 3.17 running with amavisd-new, dovecot and Postfix 2.4.3 and Clama/v on freebsd 6.1 I am trying toteach sa using the following sa-learn

Re: Bayesian Learnig for SpamAssassin

2008-04-20 Thread mouss
JasonHirsh wrote: [snip] It is possible that I messed up during the original installation as noted below your post when I deleted the /usr/bin/sa-learn all ran good. If I am not mistaking a package/rpm would tend to go with the /usr/bin while ports (which I did not appreciate whn I started

Re: Bayesian Learnig for SpamAssassin

2008-04-20 Thread mouss
JasonHirsh wrote: Err. Or maybe your distro just is not RPM based? One should believe the mail admin to know about subtle things like these... guenther Maybe I should know... I am the server, web, mail and security admin and I clean floors. well, I hope you know what OS this is? #

Re: Bayesian Learnig for SpamAssassin

2008-04-20 Thread mouss
mouss wrote: JasonHirsh wrote: Err. Or maybe your distro just is not RPM based? One should believe the mail admin to know about subtle things like these... guenther Maybe I should know... I am the server, web, mail and security admin and I clean floors. well, I hope you know what

Re: Bayesian Learnig for SpamAssassin

2008-04-20 Thread mouss
JasonHirsh wrote: On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 23:51 +0200, mouss wrote: JasonHirsh wrote: I do not recall doing two installations. I know I had some problems with ports initially (two or three years ago) But your input solved my SA-Learn problem you said ports

Re: subscribe

2008-04-21 Thread mouss
Chris wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists is this list open?

Re: S-P-A-M Extra long domain names rule?

2008-04-21 Thread mouss
Bookworm wrote: I'm starting to see some new phishing/scam attempts. What I was thinking was that it might be worthwhile to add a rule to not so much check links, but count periods. Here's the example that just came in my email - (removing http:// ) -

Re: flooded with undetected spam

2008-04-21 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Mon, April 21, 2008 04:10, Spamassassin List wrote: My inbox is flooded by some new spams. Any idea how do I block it? http://202.42.86.77/1.eml http://202.42.86.77/2.eml both hits on spamhaus but the question I would have is what is the '0' in

Re: Extra long domain names rule?

2008-04-25 Thread mouss
Bookworm wrote: Randy Ramsdell wrote: [snip] I noticed you started a thread a few days ago with he exact same body and a changed subject. There are 10-20 replies to that thread so I am not sure why start a new exactly the thread a week later. My suggestion would be to read that thread.

Re: netstat info-blacklist IP

2008-04-29 Thread mouss
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: How do I go about shunning the IP - via Exim or via SA? And where if possible the most effective is at the firewall level. why let it open a TCP session?

Re: whitelist mail from own host

2008-05-06 Thread mouss
Stefan Jakobs wrote: Hello list, here is a part of the header from a mail I like to whitelist: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.958 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SPOOF_COM2COM=2.272, SPOOF_COM2OTH=2.044, URIBL_BLACK=1.955,

Re: whitelist mail from own host

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 23:02, Stefan Jakobs wrote: Yes, that's a possibility, but I can not do that. At least not in the near future. Any other ideas? depends, but i like to know why spf can't work for you ? I don't speak for OP, but here is an example: I

Re: whitelist mail from own host

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 23:06, mouss wrote: you rely on the sender address, make sure to reject it in your smtpd (you don't want to give spammers an open road). that was why i sugested spf blocking a sender in postfix is trivial. adding SPF support requires

Re: Spoofed Email But Different User Name

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
mhildebr wrote: Is there a way to have Spamassassin look for spoofed email addresses being used as the sender's address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) but using a different user name (Viagra instead of myname)? It seems like it would be simple to check the user name and filter results from that. Thanks

Re: Spoofed Email But Different User Name

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Chris St. Pierre wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008, mhildebr wrote: Is there a way to have Spamassassin look for spoofed email addresses being used as the sender's address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) but using a different user name (Viagra instead of myname)? It seems like it would be simple to check the

Re: Experimental - use my server for your high fake MX record

2008-05-07 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: Looking for a few volunteers who want to reduce their spambot spam and at the same time help me track spambots for my black list. This is free and mutual benefit. I (junkemailfilter.com) want to be your highest numbered fake MX record. Here's how you would configure your

Re: Multiple X-Envelope-From and SPF

2008-05-08 Thread mouss
ram wrote: At the MTA( postfix) I am inserting X-Envelope-From: If The mail had already a X-Envelope-From before landing at my MTA then There would be multiple lines of these configure postfix to replace previous ones /^(X\-Envelope\-From:.*)/ REPLACE X-$1 I am assuming you are not

Re: Multiple X-Envelope-From and SPF

2008-05-09 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 23:19, mouss wrote: configure postfix to replace previous ones /^(X\-Envelope\-From:.*)/ REPLACE X-$1 envelope from can here be forged the header check above will rewrite any such header received from the internet. so forgery

Re: Multiple X-Envelope-From and SPF

2008-05-09 Thread mouss
ram wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 01:44 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 23:19, mouss wrote: configure postfix to replace previous ones /^(X\-Envelope\-From:.*)/ REPLACE X-$1 envelope from can here be forged Precisely what I am afraid of. But the issue

Re: False positive on forged_mua_outlook

2008-05-10 Thread mouss
Randy Ramsdell wrote: [snip] Scratch that and reverse it. If it does match, then it will score the message header as fake. oops :) sorry. Let me check some more things. Did outlook really generate this message-id: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Re: False positive on forged_mua_outlook

2008-05-10 Thread mouss
Jeff Koch wrote: That part (i.e. the top part of the header) was generated by qmail. Please look at the bottom part of the header after the spam scoring which shows the header from the user's email which was mistakenly scored as a forged_mua_outlook. The message-id is the same, but anyway,

Re: False positive on forged_mua_outlook

2008-05-10 Thread mouss
Jeff Koch wrote: If you guys are going to keep looking at the wrong part of the header information that I sent in nothing will get done. What makes you believe we are looking at the wrong part? see below. Please look at the section below the spam scoring. Here's the header from the user's

Re: trusted mailing list subscriber spam

2008-05-11 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 03:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I know is that I don't use SPF anymore for my domain as there are just too many problems... e.g., forwarded messages. and you usely dont know where you forwards going from, :/( unless you receive spam

Re: msrbl.com disappeared

2008-05-11 Thread mouss
Frank Bures wrote: Hi, I could not update SANE Security signatures in the last couple of days. It looks like domain msrbl.com disappeared. Could please anyone shed some light on this? $ host msrbl.com msrbl.com has address 64.22.86.210 msrbl.com mail is handled by 20 newton.8086.net.

Re: trusted mailing list subscriber spam

2008-05-13 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 22:39, mouss wrote: a +all and you are annoying us about forwarding and SPF? On 12.05.08 23:07, Benny Pedersen wrote: he, i have +all and forward nothing :) it's not about what do you forward, it's about others

Re: faked bouncebacks. what the?

2008-05-13 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 16:51:50 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I've looked at it and I've (probably) missed it (again). Why do you think that it pretends to look like backscatter, and why do you think it is not? backscatter is what happens if mail systems

Re: question about MISSING_SUBJECT

2008-05-13 Thread mouss
Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães wrote: Hello Guys, i got a message that was flagged with MISSING_SUBJECT rule. The message has, among other headers: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:12:47 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 and rules are: header

Re: faked bouncebacks. what the?

2008-05-13 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 22:45:43 mouss wrote: That said, one possibility is this: Some soho have an MSA on a dsl line. a ratwared box inside (or a web service running on the MSA box) sends mail to an invalid recipient. the MSA gets rejected and then sends you

Re: yahoo.com acknowledges no control over third party email from their mail servers

2008-05-15 Thread mouss
Michael Scheidell wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2008, Michael Scheidell wrote: I understand your frustration in receiving unsolicited email. While we investigate all reported violations against the Yahoo! Terms of Service (TOS), in this particular case the message you received was

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK is a nuisance

2008-05-17 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson wrote: I received something like this from my email to a list Sorry for the inconvinience, but we have started to fight against spam. Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description --

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK is a nuisance

2008-05-17 Thread mouss
mouss wrote: Jari Fredriksson wrote: I received something like this from my email to a list Sorry for the inconvinience, but we have started to fight against spam. Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK is a nuisance

2008-05-17 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson wrote: mouss wrote: Please show full headers of the message. actually, you don't need to. your message to the list has the same pattern. the question is whether something is (re)writing the message-id or if this a new outlook message-id format? Thanks

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK is a nuisance

2008-05-18 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson wrote: Jari Fredriksson wrote: mouss wrote: Please show full headers of the message. actually, you don't need to. your message to the list has the same pattern. the question is whether something is (re)writing the message-id or if this a new

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK is a nuisance

2008-05-18 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: if there are FP issues with current FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, could you open a bug and attach samples there? https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5910

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-19 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: Hey all -- I'm on the technical advisory board for MailChannels, a company who make a commercial traffic-shaping antispam product, Traffic Control. Basically, you put it in front of your real MTA, and it applies the easy stuff -- greet-pause, early-talker disconnection,

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-19 Thread mouss
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I respect you, but I feel sorry here. Tarpit and slowdown are know since a long time, so mailchannel bring nothing here (except marketing). In particular,greet pause has been implemented by some people. the fact that this is not common

Re: MailChannels Traffic Control (fwd)

2008-05-19 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: mouss writes: Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I respect you, but I feel sorry here. Tarpit and slowdown are know since a long time, so mailchannel bring nothing here (except marketing). In particular,greet pause has been implemented

Re: Not sure if its working

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
Bob Cohen wrote: I'm seeing these entries in my maillog: May 19 18:16:41 anduril postfix/qmgr[10162]: warning: connect to transport spamfilter: No such file or directory May 19 18:16:42 anduril postfix/qmgr[10162]: warning: connect to transport spamassassin: Connection refused which

Re: How to report FN on HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI

2008-05-20 Thread mouss
ram wrote: Yes but the invite option may be abused. Like yahoo calendar invites are abused to send spam Mailing-Lists also can be abused (try to subscribe with a forged address). the question is - can the abuser put his text or url inside the message? If so, the site should run the text

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