Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-17 Thread @lbutlr
On 2017-02-17 (14:51 MST), David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: > >> From: @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> > .Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:41 PM >> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail > >> On 2017-02-16 (0

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-17 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I am using Postfix and cluebringer does looks pretty slick >> so I will check into that. Is that policyD? http://wiki.policyd.org/start It looks helpful, but hasn't had any development in at least two years. Thanks, Alex

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 17 Feb 2017 at 21:51, David Jones wrote: > Not all compromised accounts these days blast out at a high rate like we > used to see years ago. True, but also, some still do. > I have had a few sneaky ones recently trickle spam through to stay below > the radar so rate-limiting is not

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-17 Thread David Jones
>From: @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> .Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:41 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail   >On 2017-02-16 (07:21 MST), David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: >> >>> From: Christian Grunfeld

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-17 Thread @lbutlr
On 2017-02-16 (07:21 MST), David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: > >> From: Christian Grunfeld <christian.grunf...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:50 AM >> To: Spamassassin List >> Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail > >> Are y

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 16.02.2017 um 11:07 schrieb David Jones: > My mail filters also do a lot of outbound relaying from hundreds > of customer mail servers. Compromised accounts happen and I > have some methods for detecting most of them and block the > sender at the MTA within a few minutes to prevent my server >

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
>From: Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:55 AM >To: David Jones; Spamassassin List >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail   Am 16.02.2017 um 15:49 schrieb David Jones: >> From: Christian Grunfeld <christian.grunf...@gmail.com&g

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
>From: Dianne Skoll <d...@roaringpenguin.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:30 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail   >On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:07:46 + >David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: >> Would it make

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Christian Grunfeld
2017-02-16 11:49 GMT-03:00 David Jones : > > > Many of the SMTP sending software that my customers > use are not full MTAs with queuing capabilities so some email > would be lost if I rate limited. I also have stupid mail sending > devices like scanners/copiers that could get

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
>From: Christian Grunfeld <christian.grunf...@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:29 AM >To: Spamassassin List >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail >Why not rate limiting? I think everyone is doing itI do... > Cluebringer quotas can track one to one, one

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:07:46 + David Jones wrote: > Would it make sense for me to setup/manage my own custom > rules for checking the To: header or could the FreeMail plugin > be extended to add new rules like FREEMAIL_TO? The To: header may not contain useful information.

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Christian Grunfeld
christian.grunf...@gmail.com> > >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:50 AM > >To: Spamassassin List > >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail > > >Are you using postfix as MTA? I use cluebringer suite which > >has a lot of functionality (spf checks, helo che

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
>From: Christian Grunfeld <christian.grunf...@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:50 AM >To: Spamassassin List >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail >Are you using postfix as MTA? I use cluebringer suite which >has a lot of functionality (spf checks, helo chec

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Christian Grunfeld
gt; >From: Axb <axb.li...@gmail.com> > >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:54 AM > >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail > > >On 02/16/2017 11:07 AM, David Jones wrote: > >> Would it make sense for me to setup/manag

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
>From: Axb <axb.li...@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:54 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Filtering outbound mail     >On 02/16/2017 11:07 AM, David Jones wrote: >> Would it make sense for me to setup/manage my own custom >>

Re: Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread Axb
On 02/16/2017 11:07 AM, David Jones wrote: Would it make sense for me to setup/manage my own custom rules for checking the To: header or could the FreeMail plugin be extended to add new rules like FREEMAIL_TO? To block outbound bursts using SA is probably the most inneficient method. Fai2ban

Filtering outbound mail

2017-02-16 Thread David Jones
My mail filters also do a lot of outbound relaying from hundreds of customer mail servers. Compromised accounts happen and I have some methods for detecting most of them and block the sender at the MTA within a few minutes to prevent my server IPs from becoming listed on RBLs. Customer mail

RE: Filtering outbound mail?

2005-12-14 Thread Tim Densmore
Fe Headquarters Tel: 505-988-9200 Local Contact Numbers -Original Message- From: Tim Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:38 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Filtering outbound mail? Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone knew

RE: Filtering outbound mail?

2005-12-14 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Tim Densmore wrote: I take it that outbound filtering isn't something many people do. Does anyone have any pointers at all for this sort of thing? Should I report back to the person who tasked me with this that this idea is essentially a non-starter? Try MIMEDefang instead of

RE: Filtering outbound mail?

2005-12-14 Thread Tim Densmore
! Thank you, Tim TD Densmore Cyber Mesa Telecom Santa Fe Headquarters Tel: 505-988-9200 Local Contact Numbers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:17 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: Filtering outbound

Re: Filtering outbound mail?

2005-12-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Tim Densmore wrote on Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:52 -0700: I take it that outbound filtering isn't something many people do. Does anyone have any pointers at all for this sort of thing? Take a look at MailScanner. It scans in and out and up and beyond. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get

Filtering outbound mail?

2005-12-08 Thread Tim Densmore
Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of an effective way to filter outbound mail for spam before it leaves. We're running spamassassin (well, spamd), sendmail, and spamass-milter. The mail I've tested is being tagged effectively, but I'm not sure how to then filter it. I've looked at

bayes/awl and not filtering outbound mail

2005-11-23 Thread mouss
It is tempting to avoid filtering outbound mail (with SA or other). I am assuming that outbound mail is legitimate (users are honest, and logs can be used to look for abnormal behaviour and punish the guilty). Now my question. Wouldn't that weaken Bayes filtering? I see two views