Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-27 Thread Jonas Eckerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody recall that ELIZA program from ages ago? It would be interesting to see her response to those utterances :) I forwaded the utterances to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and got this: Original Message Subject: Re: Spam utterances Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006

RE: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-27 Thread Chris Santerre
Given that spammers read this list to figure out how to defeat us... Why don't we just secure a copy of ratware and engineer a retro-virus for it? There are plenty of ratware copies floating around. ;) Its not that hard to get good phrases. Spammers can use spamassasin for that! Bayes,

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-27 Thread Justin Mason
Chris Santerre writes: Given that spammers read this list to figure out how to defeat us... Why don't we just secure a copy of ratware and engineer a retro-virus for it? There are plenty of ratware copies floating around. ;) Its not that hard to get good phrases. Spammers can use

Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Charlie Clark
Looks like there are some pretty impressive self-learning systems out there. I'm enclosing the content of the text part of a new spam. I think it's quite an interesting vocabulary that they are using, presumably from their own trained ham database. This spam got through four different

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Christian Recktenwald
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 06:53:40PM +0100, Charlie Clark wrote: Looks like there are some pretty impressive self-learning systems out there. I'm enclosing the content of the text part of a new spam. I think it's quite an interesting vocabulary that they are using, presumably from their

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Philip Prindeville
Charlie Clark wrote: Looks like there are some pretty impressive self-learning systems out there. I'm enclosing the content of the text part of a new spam. I think it's quite an interesting vocabulary that they are using, presumably from their own trained ham database. This spam got through

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread hamann . w
Hi, anybody recall that ELIZA program from ages ago? It would be interesting to see her response to those utterances :) Wolfgang Hamann Looks like there are some pretty impressive self-learning systems out =20= there. I'm enclosing the content of the text part of a new spam. I =20 think

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Justin Mason
there was a very interesting project described in CEAS which did just this -- engaged 419ers and other spammers in negotation, to waste their time. It's a great idea! --j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, anybody recall that ELIZA program from ages ago? It would be interesting to see her

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Philip Prindeville
Given that spammers read this list to figure out how to defeat us... Why don't we just secure a copy of ratware and engineer a retro-virus for it? -Philip Justin Mason wrote: there was a very interesting project described in CEAS which did just this -- engaged 419ers and other spammers in

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Justin Mason
er, it's illegal, and we're not criminals like they are? ;) --j. Philip Prindeville writes: Given that spammers read this list to figure out how to defeat us... Why don't we just secure a copy of ratware and engineer a retro-virus for it? -Philip Justin Mason wrote: there was a

Re: Interesting text content in the new spams

2006-11-23 Thread Philip Prindeville
Poor choice of words. Not a virus. A vaccine. ;-) -Philip Justin Mason wrote: er, it's illegal, and we're not criminals like they are? ;) --j. Philip Prindeville writes: Given that spammers read this list to figure out how to defeat us... Why don't we just secure a copy of ratware and