Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-16 Thread Darxus
On 02/16, Charles Gregory wrote: You got it. Exactly. And that's why I gave up on MTX. Because the author was insisting that exactly that should happen. I have never recommended that the majority of people penalize email just because it doesn't get an MTX Pass, before wide spread adoption.

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-16 Thread Marc Perkel
dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: In my initial posts I did focus too much on my hope that MTX will eventually be sufficiently widely adopted that such mail *can* safely be penalized. I also apologized for that communication failure on my part. I'm still waiting for RDNS to be widely

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02/14, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. On 14.02.10 14:48, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Yeah. I'm thinking of using the 4th octet to indicate participation, and the third octet to indicate

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. This is why I would support mtamark... It permits the sysadmin to determine the default behaviour for his IP range, rather than defining a

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. On 15.02.10 09:04, Charles Gregory wrote: This is why I would support mtamark... It permits the sysadmin to determine the default behaviour

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: well, the ipv6 addresses are (were?) expected to be allocated by /48 blocks, so we could need check on this level too, imho. We got an IPv6 range allocated late last year, it is a /48 block. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Jonas Eckerman
On 2010-02-15 15:04, Charles Gregory wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. This is why I would support mtamark... It permits the sysadmin to determine the default behaviour

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-15 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. This is why I would support mtamark... It permits the sysadmin to determine the default behaviour for his IP range, rather than defining a

MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-14 Thread Darxus
Very simple, via HTTP and a small perl script: http://www.chaosreigns.com/mtx/#blacklist It's currently empty. On 02/14, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 02/14, Jonas Eckerman wrote: * I think there should be a way to tell the world wether you are using the scheme for a domain (not host)

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-14 Thread Jonas Eckerman
On 2010-02-14 20:06, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: I remembered why (else) I didn't want to do that. It effectively says Everything else should be rejected. Which will discourage some people from using it. So you would at least need to provide a way to say Yes, I'm participating, but

Re: MTX public blacklist implemented Re: MTX plugin functionally complete?

2010-02-14 Thread Darxus
On 02/14, Jonas Eckerman wrote: 1: The participation record is optional, so you only use it if you want everything else to be rejected. Yeah. I'm thinking of using the 4th octet to indicate participation, and the third octet to indicate delegation. Check for the MTX record first, and if it