Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 03 Sep 2018, at 10:51, Antony Stone wrote: > It still sounds like a strange way of identifying spam to me: > > 1. surely there are far stronger indicators in the Received headers and/or > the > body itself > > 2. people are going to be using glyphs such as this more and more commonly in

use bytes was Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-04 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/4/2018 10:57 AM, RW wrote: > My understanding is that for historic reasons there is heavy use of > 'use byte', so SpamAssassin sees text as a series of bytes in whatever > character set it's written in. normalize_charset allows text to be > converted to UTF-8, which makes it easier to match

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-04 Thread RW
On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 00:02:45 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 1 Sep 2018, at 18:22 (-0400), David B Funk wrote: > > > On the other-hand, if you want to decode the subject line and then > > pattern-match against all the possible UTF-8 emojies, you're going > > to end up with a rather unwieldy rule.

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-04 Thread Groach
I receive emails containing these emojis in subjects regularly. I often found them annoying and common in spam and wondered about catching then just as the original poster requested. But then I looked further and see them often used in genuine emails also. Famously twitter uses these emojis

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-04 Thread Pedro David Marco
On Monday, September 3, 2018, 6:52:25 PM GMT+2, Antony Stone wrote: >It still sounds like a strange way of identifying spam to me: >1. surely there are far stronger indicators in the Received headers and/or the >body itself >2. people are going to be using glyphs such as this more and

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 03 September 2018 at 18:40:44, Pedro David Marco wrote: > On Sunday, September 2, 2018, 6:02:55 AM GMT+2, Bill Cole wrote: > > SA "header" rules match against decoded headers, not the Base64 or QP > > encoded text. > > Maybe he can try with "rawbody" as the subject is the first

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-03 Thread Pedro David Marco
On Sunday, September 2, 2018, 6:02:55 AM GMT+2, Bill Cole wrote: >SA "header" rules match against decoded headers, not the Base64 or QP  >encoded text. Maybe he can try with "rawbody" as the subject is the first line... Many rules to cover all emojis may be poitnless but covering

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 1 Sep 2018, at 18:22 (-0400), David B Funk wrote: On the other-hand, if you want to decode the subject line and then pattern-match against all the possible UTF-8 emojies, you're going to end up with a rather unwieldy rule. SA "header" rules match against decoded headers, not the Base64 or

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, David B Funk wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: This is a subject line: Re: Habemus APP LG  Do you understand that is not an image (EG jpg, png, or tiff) but a UTF-8 code point ("emoji" character) glyph. We cannot tell because you haven't provided

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: This is a subject line: Re: Habemus APP LG  Do you understand that is not an image (EG jpg, png, or tiff) but a UTF-8 code point ("emoji" character) glyph. We cannot tell because you haven't provided us with an actual message but I'm going

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: This is a subject line: Re: Habemus APP LG  Please paste the entire raw message, all headers included (with recipient sanitization if needed) to something like pastebin so that we can see all of it. The version that your MUA displays to you is

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread Rupert Gallagher
This is a subject line: Re: Habemus APP LG  On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 14:15, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 14:09:52, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 09:35, Pedro David Marco wrote: >> > >> >> On Saturday, September 1, 2018, 7:02:20 AM GMT+2, Rupert

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 14:09:52, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 09:35, Pedro David Marco wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, September 1, 2018, 7:02:20 AM GMT+2, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > Do you have an SA rule for it? > > > > Do you have any sample, Rupert? > > Of

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Of course I do. On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 09:35, Pedro David Marco wrote: > Do you have any sample, Rupert? > >>On Saturday, September 1, 2018, 7:02:20 AM GMT+2, Rupert Gallagher >> wrote: >> >>Do you have an SA rule for it?

Re: Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-09-01 Thread Pedro David Marco
Do you have any sample, Rupert? >On Saturday, September 1, 2018, 7:02:20 AM GMT+2, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >Do you have an SA rule for it? 

Non-ascii subjects with images

2018-08-31 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Do you have an SA rule for it?