Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Kris Deugau
RW wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 18:01:37 +0200 Henrik K wrote: But if one wanted to check the forwarders after hermes.apache.org properly, it would make more sense to add it in internal_networks, since practicall it acts as the outer MX for you. That would enable proper blacklist checks too.

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 18:01:37 +0200 Henrik K wrote: > But if one wanted to check the forwarders after hermes.apache.org > properly, it would make more sense to add it in internal_networks, > since practicall it acts as the outer MX for you. That would enable > proper blacklist checks too. Mostly

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2019-12-19 17:04, Henrik K wrote: Thinking about it more, atleast SPF would break, so not the best idea.. :-) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on localhost.junc.eu X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.2, required=5.0, Autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no,

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 06:01:37PM +0200, Henrik K wrote: > > But if one wanted to check the forwarders after hermes.apache.org properly, > it would make more sense to add it in internal_networks, since practicall it > acts as the outer MX for you. That would enable proper blacklist checks >

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 02:58:42PM +, RW wrote: > > Because the trusted network outside of the internal network is trusted > not to be under the control of a spammer, but you can't generally > trust what's relayed through it. Forwarders that are listed at > all usually have a low level of

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread RW
Sorry, sent the previous one accidently. On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:36:28 + RW wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:49:34 +0200 > Henrik K wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:43:43PM +0200, Henrik K wrote: > > > > > > hermes.apache.org[207.244.88.153] which sends these list mails is > > >

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2019-12-19 14:00: not needed when you don't scan. And I don't recommend training bayes with mailing list data, especially not SA-users. how to tell spamassassin that maillist should not be bayes learned when sa still is used on that maillists would be

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:49:34 +0200 Henrik K wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:43:43PM +0200, Henrik K wrote: > > > > hermes.apache.org[207.244.88.153] which sends these list mails is > > also supposed to hit RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, not _NONE? Your setup seems > > wonky. > > Answering myself,

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2019-12-19 12:03: one of ways is not to pass mail received from 207.244.88.153 to spamassassin. On 19.12.19 12:30, Benny Pedersen wrote: loosing bayes ham training not needed when you don't scan. And I don't recommend training bayes with mailing list data,

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2019-12-19 12:03: one of ways is not to pass mail received from 207.244.88.153 to spamassassin. loosing bayes ham training

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19.12.19 16:34, Philip wrote: Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by fantomas.fantomas.sk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-14~deb10u1) with SMTP id xBJ3YZWh032473 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 04:34:44 +0100 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org From: Philip Subject: White listing

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Henrik K skrev den 2019-12-19 11:43: or maybe just give more score negative to MAILING_LIST_MULTI ? Normal SA rules will hit USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL, due to "def_whitelist_auth *@*.apache.org". Have you cleared these or why is it not hitting for you? if trusted_networks includes apache org ip

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:43:43PM +0200, Henrik K wrote: > > hermes.apache.org[207.244.88.153] which sends these list mails is also > supposed to hit RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, not _NONE? Your setup seems wonky. Answering myself, DNSWL uses firsttrusted, so you've probably have some Apache stuff in

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:15:42AM +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Philip skrev den 2019-12-19 04:34: > >How do I white list this mailing list for some reason all the messages > >are now going to spam. > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on localhost.junc.eu >

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Philip skrev den 2019-12-19 04:34: How do I white list this mailing list for some reason all the messages are now going to spam. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on localhost.junc.eu X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0, required=5.0, Autolearn=no autolearn_force=no,

Re: White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-18 Thread Bill Cole
On 18 Dec 2019, at 22:34, Philip wrote: How do I white list this mailing list for some reason all the messages are now going to spam. If you can whitelist on arbitrary headers: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org If you know what exactly is causing the

White listing this mailing list.

2019-12-18 Thread Philip
How do I white list this mailing list for some reason all the messages are now going to spam.