Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
Per Jessen skrev den 2013-02-06 08:37: For me that creates too much traffic, unfortunately. use spf test before reject_unverified_sender reduce this problem here was the plan not to get it up again ? See the other postings about http://www.rfc-ignorant.de/ - someone is working on it.

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-04 09:25: port 25 open. There are multiple ways to detect dynamic IPs (rDNS patterns, PBL, SORBS-DUL, MAPS-DYNA) which I found more safe than TCP port 25 open. On 04.02.13 17:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: i never write only but my point is that if port 25

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-06 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-04 09:25: port 25 open. There are multiple ways to detect dynamic IPs (rDNS patterns, PBL, SORBS-DUL, MAPS-DYNA) which I found more safe than TCP port 25 open. On 04.02.13 17:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: i never write only but

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Matthias Leisi
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: This is what e.g. rfci-ignorant or many other rhsbl blacklists are for. rfc-ignorant has gone off-line. http://www.rfc-ignorant.de/ -- Matthias

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Per Jessen
Matthias Leisi wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: This is what e.g. rfci-ignorant or many other rhsbl blacklists are for. rfc-ignorant has gone off-line. http://www.rfc-ignorant.de/ -- Matthias Thanks, I didn't know someone had decided

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Rob McEwen
On 2/5/2013 6:22 AM, Per Jessen wrote: http://www.rfc-ignorant.de/ -- Matthias Thanks, I didn't know someone had decided to continue the project. I suggested it on the rfc-ignorant mailing list but there wasn't much interest. Interesting and good news!... but their home page states

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Per Jessen skrev den 2013-02-05 08:27: rfc-ignorant has gone off-line. thats why i choiced to use reject_unverified_sender in postfix, and yes i know it can be abused, but it solves more problems then it creates for me was the plan not to get it up again ?

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matthias Leisi skrev den 2013-02-05 10:43: rfc-ignorant has gone off-line. http://www.rfc-ignorant.de/ will it not be added to spamassassin rules ? is the old rules still in rules out there ? i have not followed progress on that, have being away from maillist for long time now

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-05 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: Per Jessen skrev den 2013-02-05 08:27: rfc-ignorant has gone off-line. thats why i choiced to use reject_unverified_sender in postfix, and yes i know it can be abused, but it solves more problems then it creates for me For me that creates too much traffic,

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-03 20:41: only whitelist dynamic ips if there is port 25 open on it, so any open relay and SMTP redirect gets whitelisted? On 04.02.13 00:55, Benny Pedersen wrote: nope, if port 25 is open, its another problem, in the way that is could be static ip,

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-04 09:25: port 25 open. There are multiple ways to detect dynamic IPs (rDNS patterns, PBL, SORBS-DUL, MAPS-DYNA) which I found more safe than TCP port 25 open. i never write only but my point is that if port 25 is open, is it then still dynamic ? i

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-04 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-03 20:41: only whitelist dynamic ips if there is port 25 open on it, so any open relay and SMTP redirect gets whitelisted? On 04.02.13 00:55, Benny Pedersen wrote: nope, if port 25 is open, its another problem, in the way

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Robert Schetterer skrev den 2013-01-26 08:22: as wrote, there is always a chance to whitelist something, but big mailplayers dont do it or cant do by tec reasons i.e if your sednded mail is comming from dynips it makes less sense dynip should NOT be used for mail sending (without SMTP auth)

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-03 20:41: only whitelist dynamic ips if there is port 25 open on it, so any open relay and SMTP redirect gets whitelisted? nope, if port 25 is open, its another problem, in the way that is could be static ip, with a dynamic hostname / reverse dns,

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
Robert Schetterer skrev den 2013-01-26 08:22: as wrote, there is always a chance to whitelist something, but big mailplayers dont do it or cant do by tec reasons i.e if your sednded mail is comming from dynips it makes less sense to whitelist them, some stuff is more easy fixed at the sender

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
Robert Schetterer skrev den 2013-01-26 08:26: there is less you can do, if your mail provider does not give you chance to change antispam settings yourself i.e. in some gui and/or he is not willing to change it for you i begin to wonder how gmail handle it :=)

Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread mario21
.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Whitelist-and-DNS-blacklists-in-SpamAssassin-tp103262.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Ted Hatfield
in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Whitelist-and-DNS-blacklists-in-SpamAssassin-tp103262.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Normally the answer would be no. This depends on how your mail provider is using the dns blacklists

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Ted Hatfield
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, mario21 wrote: Thank you for your replies guys. The emails are blocked by my mail provider (ISP is different from my mail provider). I already tried to contact him but I would like to know more... He told me that DNS blacklists have higher priority and he can't do anything

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
mario21 skrev den 2013-01-25 21:53: Thank you for your replies guys. The emails are blocked by my mail provider (ISP is different from my mail provider). I already tried to contact him but I would like to know more... He told me that DNS blacklists have higher priority and he can't do anything

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread mario21
.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Whitelist-and-DNS-blacklists-in-SpamAssassin-tp103262p103271.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Ted Hatfield
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, mario21 wrote: Yes Ted, I was thinking about the same but I'm afraid about more spam... Benny - blocked is IP address (usually whole range of IP addresses). My client uses a mail provider whose almost all IP addresses are very often blacklisted (I checked it via

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Robert Schetterer
dont do it or cant do by tec reasons i.e if your sednded mail is comming from dynips it makes less sense to whitelist them, some stuff is more easy fixed at the sender i.e sending via relay etc -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Whitelist-and-DNS

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-01-25 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 25.01.2013 23:57, schrieb mario21: but I would like to resolve it on my side if it's possible... there is less you can do, if your mail provider does not give you chance to change antispam settings yourself i.e. in some gui and/or he is not willing to change it for you Best Regards MfG