Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Basile, You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect. Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened and have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Thiago, What do you mean by "non-Howard committers"? Why are you dividing? I thought there were only 2 groups, committers and non-committers. Stop that childish act and be brave enough to accept the blame. This release indeed sucks. Tapestry sucks as a whole. Why waste other people's time to ask

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

I have many apps into production with more than 50.000 users and 200.000 page-views at month and Tapestry works very good. I use Tapestry from 5.1.0.5 and it always run fast and I develop projects very easy and productive. I haven´t any problem with 5.4.0 version and I think my webapps (flight

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

I have been using tapestry 5 in more than 10 complex web applications with with no problem at all.Never had problems upgrading from one version to another except some minor changes. Its one of the best Java web frameworks I have ever used. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Carlos Montero Canabal

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:53:04 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship, is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects? I wish we had some high-quality trolls (the ones who make hard,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:00:36 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Thiago, Hello, low-quality troll! What do you mean by "non-Howard committers"? Why are you dividing? I thought there were only 2 groups, committers and non-committers. Tapestry is sometimes accused of being a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

You have to give our troll some credit... Low quality, sure, but at least he's consistent! He's been spewing the same nonsense on this mailing list for about 10 years now. https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls On Feb 12, 2016 7:18 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Consistent my ass. On Feb 12, 2016 4:53 AM, "Emmanuel Sowah" wrote: > Basile, > > You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to > look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect. > Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

So you are on this list to help us seeing the light? Aren't you? Like Jesus came down to earth to enlighten people in Israel and all over the world. Thank you ! I hope you don't have to suffer like him on a cross. Il 12/02/2016 10:53, Emmanuel Sowah ha scritto: > Basile, > > You must be foolish

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own Ship. I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit obvious. I love puns. :) And as for you comment about Wicket,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:52:15 -0200, JT wrote: He does not even answer our questions. Of course he's gone! Shame on him. Leaving us behind! Crappy release. Talking about me, JT? -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Not. Not only you. But everyone who broke google app engine feature! On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

He does not even answer our questions. Of course he's gone! Shame on him. Leaving us behind! Crappy release. On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah > wrote: > > Yes, Thiago, that

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

No we don't. If it works then it's good. Because no reply from anyone about our issue. On Feb 12, 2016 11:58 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:54:21 -0200, JT wrote: > > Not. Not only you. But everyone who broke google app

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Hey Bro, Go spew those bullshit comments to you other Tapestry sect members, ok? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Ivano Luberti wrote: > So you are on this list to help us seeing the light? Aren't you? > Like Jesus came down to earth to enlighten people in Israel and all

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own Ship. He has let you all down. For those who are using Tapestry in production, pull them down ASAP and rewrite them in another best of breed framework like Wicket. That, Mr. Ship has left, is a clear evidence that Tapestry

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/ Can you point to the problem there? Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor, 5.4-beta-35, with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem. Can you be

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been using for over a year). At least AJAX forms are seriously broken. The most critical issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391 (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved). There's a number of

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form fragment that's hidden during form submission: https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of the box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments example? http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/examples/wizard/usingformfragments/$N/$N Geoff > On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:55 PM, Ilya Obshadko wrote: > > Just found another issue:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

I've been using Tapestry actively since version 5.0 and still think it's on of the best in terms of overall design and approach. However latest updates (since 5.4-beta22 I guess) is a total mess. I was hoping that final release should clean up things, but apparently that didn't happen. I have to

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

No wonder itv sucks. On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" wrote: > No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4 > branch over three years (see for example > http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html) > and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

I'll try to gather more evidence. >From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all without setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true* helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex ones (when validated fields are inside

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

FormFragments are inside a loop. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:12 PM, JumpStart < geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote: > How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments > example? > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

But it broke the functionally with Google App Engine!!! On Dec 22, 2015 8:48 PM, "Bob Harner" wrote: > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4, > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download: > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit : No wonder itv sucks. On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" wrote: No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4 branch over three years (see for example

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Folks, This is why you should drop Tapestry ASAP, and head to a more serious and state of the art frameworks. Tapestry is meant for POCs and prototypes that you plan to throw away. Even Howard doesn't use Tapestry anymore. He uses Wicket. Tapestry is just a joke. Cheers On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Hi, I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache www-announce mailing list. The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser https://blogs.apache.org/

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:28:21 -0200, Barry Books wrote: Finished is important. Indeed. In addition, I think we could say this was the release in which non-Howard committers have done the most work so far. -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Tapestry, Java and Hibernate

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 19:02:33 -0200, JT wrote: No concerns. Just my two cents opinion. With no details at all, I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to do by providing this opinion. It's just like me saying "JT sucks" (just an example, I don't know you, so I don't

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Finished is important. Thanks On Friday, December 25, 2015, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4 > branch over three years (see for example >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

I think 5.4 is a fantastic release:-) Sendt fra Outlook Mobile On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:08 AM -0800, "Carlos Montero Canabal [via Apache Tapestry Mailing List Archives]" >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Hi Tapestry team. I have to give us the congratulations for the release. I’m working with tapestry from the Tapestry 5.1.0.5 version. This 5.4 release is a big change (javascript) and I have to learn a lot of interesting new concepts. Thank you so much and keep up the good work. Carlos

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4 branch over three years (see for example http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html) and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4 code. I guess you could say it was the first

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

JT - why do you say that ? Did you have concerns with the release that were not addressed ? Is it the features in the release ? In any case, it would be useful to have some further details. Cheers - Alex K On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM, JT wrote: > Worst release ever. > On

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

No concerns. Just my two cents opinion. But does this release support all platform that 5.3.x support? On Dec 24, 2015 9:58 PM, "Alex Kotchnev" wrote: > JT - why do you say that ? Did you have concerns with the release that were > not addressed ? Is it the features in the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed by Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up). Cheers - Alex K On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner wrote: >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

Worst release ever. On Dec 23, 2015 2:48 AM, "Bob Harner" wrote: > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4, > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download: > > http://tapestry.apache.org/download > > Tapestry 5.4

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4, a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download: http://tapestry.apache.org/download Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and