RE: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-12 Thread Svein-Erik Løken
After reading posts after posts that Tapestry is outdated - how is it outdated? The last year I have used ReactJS/JSX/TypeScript/es2015/node, SCCS in a multimodule setup in Tapestry. I am using Tapestry Resteasy or just Tapestry Ajax() or Zone.deferredZoneUpdate() to nice error messages. Can

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-10 Thread Qbyte Consulting
Good grief, not this again. Tapestry is a great choice where the developer has java skills (it works quite well with Scala too) and doesn’t want to spend hundreds of hours gaining proficiency in a java script framework (that change every few years) and where there isn’t budget or requirements

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-10 Thread Lance Java
13 years dude 13 years On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 11:05 am Emmanuel Sowah, wrote: > Lance, > > I am not hating Tapestry, I am only a messenger preaching the good news > that the world has moved on and left behind antiquated frameworks like > Tapestry. Even the founder, Howard Lewis Ship, the

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-04 Thread Numa Schmeder
Technologies such as Tapestry are not more deprecated than Wicket neither worst. Wicked has its benefits, but also quite a lot of weakness. Wicket is very verbose and annoying to refactor, I can’t see any advantage of Wicket over Tapestry. Regarding new technologies, there are plenty of new

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-04 Thread Charles Roth
Emmanuel: Do you seriously NOT realize what is going on here?  YOU were the first person to start calling people names.  YOU are the one using "ad hominem" arguments about Tapestry users.  YOU are the one crying "Mom, he hit me back first!" I actually AGREE with you that it's past time to

RE: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-04 Thread Svein-Erik Løken
You don't have to tell us that, we know there is a world out there! I have tried Wicket - it is very good, but found Tapestry better for my needs. I am using ReactJS with Tapestry. It works very well. Tapestry is rock solid and I hope it will live forever! S-E

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-04 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Lance, I am not hating Tapestry, I am only a messenger preaching the good news that the world has moved on and left behind antiquated frameworks like Tapestry. Even the founder, Howard Lewis Ship, the captain of this Tapestry ship, has long left this sinking ship. He is now using other better and

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-03 Thread JumpStart
lol. Same here. > On 3 Jul 2019, at 4:34 pm, Massimo Lusetti wrote: > > Thanks Lance, you made my day. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 PM Lance Java > wrote: > >> Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service award. >> You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now.

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-03 Thread Massimo Lusetti
Thanks Lance, you made my day. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 PM Lance Java wrote: > Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service award. > You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now. Way to hold a grudge > dude! > > https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls > >

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-07-02 Thread Lance Java
Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service award. You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now. Way to hold a grudge dude! https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 10:18 am Emmanuel Sowah, wrote: > Of course it's understandable that they

RE: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-20 Thread Svein-Erik Løken
-Original Message- From: Qbyte Consulting Sent: torsdag 20. juni 2019 03:02 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3 React repeats the same sins as JSP by mixing code and presentation. A problem tapestry addressed. Its kind of strange

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Well John, that historic argument of missing code and presentation was probably oversold as bad then just to push a new thing unto us. Having used these modern frameworks in large scale projects, that has never been an issue. Facebook is using these frameworks too for their global app. Should that

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-19 Thread Qbyte Consulting
React repeats the same sins as JSP by mixing code and presentation. A problem tapestry addressed. Its kind of strange seeing this JSP age issue afflict those “better frameworks”. I’d also wager a SPA could be developed more quickly in tapestry than with any JS framework plus an API. Then there

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-19 Thread Charles Roth
We're called "professionals", who are trying to maintain older, large, applications that were built before Angular etc existed, while we simultaneously migrate them into smaller pieces that will work with modern frameworks. So if you've got nothing useful to say, get the hell off my lawn,

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-19 Thread Dmitry Gusev
Hi, To be fair Tapestry support as implemented in the plugin was and is still very limited and sometimes even misleading, and there's definitely room for improvements. But it's still the best we have. In case you didn't notice, the plugin has been open sourced few months ago:

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-19 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Of course it's understandable that they are going to deprecate it. What kind of creatures are you still stuck to a failed and stone-age framework like Tapestry? Even the original creator, Howard Lewis Ship, has abandoned it for better frameworks like React, Angular and Wicket. Guys, wake up and

RE: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-18 Thread Chris Lail
If you visit the link, there is a contact form. I sent a contact urging the continued support of the plugin. -Original Message- From: Rafael Bugajewski Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 5:01 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ

Re: Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-18 Thread Rafael Bugajewski
I use the plugin. That’s some sad news :( Best, Rafael > On Jun 18, 2019, at 10:45 PM, Nicolas Bouillon wrote: > > Hi, > > Not sure if many of you are using the Tapestry plugins of IntellJ Ultimate. > > I do and it's very handy to navigate fastly between components and for code > completion

Jetbrains considers to deprecate Tapestry plugin in IntelliJ 2019.3

2019-06-18 Thread Nicolas Bouillon
Hi, Not sure if many of you are using the Tapestry plugins of IntellJ Ultimate. I do and it's very handy to navigate fastly between components and for code completion in templates. https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/06/plugin-deprecations-in-intellij-idea-v2019-2/ Tapestry is my favorite