Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-17 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 12/15/2009 5:01 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat It would seem that there ought to be some low-level response-direction socket flag

Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Chetan Chheda
Hello,     We frequently have situations where a user has brought down a tomcat entirely by himself by running the same transaction multiple times because the response was not quick enough.   Is there a way through configuation of tomcat and mod_jk to control the number of concurrent

RE: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread George Sexton
wait. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 -Original Message- From: Chetan Chheda [mailto:chetan_chh...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:04 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Limit user sessions in tomcat Hello,     We

RE: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Chetan Chheda [mailto:chetan_chh...@yahoo.com] Subject: Limit user sessions in tomcat Is there a way through configuation of tomcat and mod_jk to control the number of concurrent transactions/sessions a user can maintain? Don't know about what you might be able to configure in httpd

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread André Warnier
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Chetan Chheda [mailto:chetan_chh...@yahoo.com] Subject: Limit user sessions in tomcat Is there a way through configuation of tomcat and mod_jk to control the number of concurrent transactions/sessions a user can maintain? Don't know about what you might

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/12/15 André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com On another level, I don't quite understand yet how this squares with the fact that most browsers will not establish more than 2 connections with the same webserver at the same time. It seems a bit difficult to imagine that one single user can crash a

RE: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat On another level, I don't quite understand yet how this squares with the fact that most browsers will not establish more than 2 connections with the same webserver at the same time. Because when you

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Chetan Chheda
List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:07:15 PM Subject: Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat 2009/12/15 André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com On another level, I don't quite understand yet how this squares with the fact that most browsers will not establish more than 2 connections

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/12/15 Chetan Chheda chetan_chh...@yahoo.com Is there a 3rd party tool available to manage tomcat sessions and kill them once they go rogue? Can I just check two pieces of terminology? In Tomcat (and many other web servers), a session is the notion that a user will make multiple

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Chetan Chheda
peter.crowt...@melandra.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:42:01 PM Subject: Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat 2009/12/15 Chetan Chheda chetan_chh...@yahoo.com     Is there a 3rd party tool available to manage tomcat sessions and kill them once they go

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 12/15/2009 12:01 PM, André Warnier wrote: On another level, I don't quite understand yet how this squares with the fact that most browsers will not establish more than 2 connections with the same webserver at the same time. Things have

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chetan, On 12/15/2009 11:03 AM, Chetan Chheda wrote: We frequently have situations where a user has brought down a tomcat entirely by himself by running the same transaction multiple times because the response was not quick enough. Does this

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Ken Bowen
Are there any standard techniques that a /developer/ of such a long running prccess could apply to wrap the process in a cocoon which periodically updates a browser with (real) progress data, and at the same time, such updates are verifications that the socket is still live and the user

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ken, On 12/15/2009 1:52 PM, Ken Bowen wrote: Are there any standard techniques that a /developer/ of such a long running proccess could apply to wrap the process in a cocoon which periodically updates a browser with (real) progress data, and at

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread André Warnier
Chetan Chheda wrote: Andre, We have a vast user population thats geographically dispersed, so implementing something thru the system would be the favourable approach.. Can you point me to links on the web that explain the add on modules and their implementation? All, Is there a 3rd

Re: Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread André Warnier
Chetan Chheda wrote: Thanks Peter for the clarification. My background is that of a UNIX administrator not a web administrator and its showing from my posts.. My problem is long running requests. If the requests take longer than their fancy, the users just close the browser window, open a new

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Ken Bowen
Chris, Thanks. We do #1 routinely, usually setting the thread(s) up as workers managing a queue. #2 can be problematic as you note: long-running db queries or long graphics generation are hard to fit into this model simply because one is using someone else's monolithic code that makes no

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread André Warnier
Ken Bowen wrote: Chris, Thanks. We do #1 routinely, usually setting the thread(s) up as workers managing a queue. #2 can be problematic as you note: long-running db queries or long graphics generation are hard to fit into this model simply because one is using someone else's monolithic code

RE: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat It would seem that there ought to be some low-level response-direction socket flag that should be available, to tell whether the receiving end has gone, without actually having to send

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Pid
On 15/12/2009 22:01, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat It would seem that there ought to be some low-level response-direction socket flag that should be available, to tell whether the receiving end

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat It would seem that there ought to be some low-level response-direction socket flag that should

RE: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:rosenberg.l...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat Hmm, last time I implemented a tcp/ip stack (which is more than 10 years ago) there were no possibility in the tcp protocol to detect a broken (not closed) connection

Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Barker
Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote in message news:99c8b2929b39c24493377ac7a121e21f9680850...@usea-exch8.na.uis.unisys.com... From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT - question] Limit user sessions in tomcat It would seem that there ought to be some