>I still wonder, why you are so reluctant to use a technical user. Especially >since you have security concerns about the anonymous user.
To find someone's roles, LDAP only requires a bind + a search in groups. It is a simple ldapsearch command for the ones using command lines. But when connecting through Tomcat we also need extra either one more account or allowing anonymous bind. This is not logical to add extra work to anything which could stay simple. About security, we can ask any user to change its password on a monthly or quarterly basis. The technical account should be under the same security control with expiring passwords and it is not good practice to stop client applications especially when there are many, or in production environment. The anonymous bind is free from such problem, and it's not much worse than a password stored in a config file. ________________________________________ De : Felix Schumacher [felix.schumac...@internetallee.de] Envoyé : jeudi 14 mars 2013 15:28 À : Tomcat Users List Objet : RE:RE:JNDI property roleSearchAsUser not working as expected "Eugène Adell" <eugene.ad...@d2-si.eu> schrieb: > >Thanks Felix, > >I will choose the easy way by allowing the anonymous to bind the >directory, against all security logics, and strengthen the ACL to >forbid anonymous search. > >Anyway, the bug 19444 is closed saying the new parameter (introduced in >7.0.9 and corrected in 7.0.30) allows role searching with the >authenticating user. That's true, but we still need either the >anonymous or a technical user for the startup binding. It's not really >compliant to real-life LDAP management. > I still wonder, why you are so reluctant to use a technical user. Especially since you have security concerns about the anonymous user. Regards Felix >best regards > > > >________________________________________ >De : Felix Schumacher [felix.schumac...@internetallee.de] >Envoyé : jeudi 14 mars 2013 14:22 >À : Tomcat Users List >Objet : RE:JNDI property roleSearchAsUser not working as expected > >Am 14.03.2013 13:40, schrieb Eugène Adell: >> This doc is self-contradictory because it suggests "to setup a >> technical user" when we "don't want to configure a technical user", >> and it doesn't give any solution when we are not the admin of the >> directory. > >I can't read that out of the docs for roleSearchAsUser as stated on >http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/realm.html#JNDI_Directory_Realm_-_org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm > >It is just a mechanism to switch from the credentials when searching >for roles. > >That way you can restrict the rights to the anonymous/admin user, so >that it doesn't need to be able to lookup groups/roles for a user. > >> >> Here we learn that Tomcat JNDI Realm only works in "Administrator >> Login Mode" with an administrator login/password (in fact the >> "technical user" discussed above) : >> >> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/funcspecs/fs-jndi-realm.html > >I believe the "Administrator Login Mode" is used for retrieving >attributes out of an users object and comparing the values to some >given >credentials. The "User Login Mode" is used when a bind is performed to >check the credentials. But either way, you will have to setup a >technical user, or open the directory server to allow anonymous binds >and searches for the user dn's. > >> >> From this, it seems that roleSearchAsUser is only usefull when the >> anonymous bind is allowed. It's another contradiction here, because >it >> seems logical to use this parameter especially when anonymous is not >> allowed. > >You will not get to the point where the role is being searched, since >before that there are two points, where your directory is being >accessed. > 1. initial test of connection (which you reported in your first mail) > 2. look up of the user, which wants to login (and since the username >to bind with is not known, it will be hard to guess) > >So as stated before the easiest thing is to just use a technical user >to connect to the directory. > >Regards > Felix >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> De : Felix Schumacher [felix.schumac...@internetallee.de] >> Envoyé : jeudi 14 mars 2013 12:03 >> À : Tomcat Users List >> Objet : Re: JNDI property roleSearchAsUser not working as expected >> >> Am 13.03.2013 21:46, schrieb Eugène Adell: >>> Hello >>> >>> I am running the following : >>> java version "1.6.0_25" >>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_25-b06) >>> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode, sharing) >>> Tomcat 7.0.37 >>> CentOS release 6.3 >>> >>> with this REALM configuration in server.xml : >>> <Realm >>> className="org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm" >>> connectionURL="ldap://***.***.***.***:389"; >>> >>> userPattern="cn={0},ou=users,dc=example,dc=com" >>> roleBase="ou=groups,dc=example,dc=com" >>> roleSubtree="true" >>> roleNested="true" >>> roleName="cn" >>> roleSearchAsUser="true" >>> roleSearch="(uniqueMember={0})" /> >>> >>> and this triggers this error during the startup : >>> Mar 13, 2013 8:14:49 PM org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm open >>> WARNING: Exception performing authentication >>> javax.naming.AuthenticationNotSupportedException: [LDAP: error code >>> 48 - anonymous bind disallowed] >>> at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.mapErrorCode(LdapCtx.java:3032) >>> at >>> com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.processReturnCode(LdapCtx.java:2987) >>> at >>> com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.processReturnCode(LdapCtx.java:2789) >>> at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.connect(LdapCtx.java:2703) >>> at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.<init>(LdapCtx.java:293) >>> at >>> >com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtxFactory.getUsingURL(LdapCtxFactory.java:175) >>> at >>> >com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtxFactory.getUsingURLs(LdapCtxFactory.java:193) >>> at >>> >com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtxFactory.getLdapCtxInstance(LdapCtxFactory.java:136) >>> at >>> >com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtxFactory.getInitialContext(LdapCtxFactory.java:66) >>> at >>> >javax.naming.spi.NamingManager.getInitialContext(NamingManager.java:667) >>> at >>> >javax.naming.InitialContext.getDefaultInitCtx(InitialContext.java:288) >>> at javax.naming.InitialContext.init(InitialContext.java:223) >>> at >>> javax.naming.InitialContext.<init>(InitialContext.java:197) >>> at >>> >javax.naming.directory.InitialDirContext.<init>(InitialDirContext.java:82) >>> at >>> org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm.open(JNDIRealm.java:2150) >>> at >>> >org.apache.catalina.realm.JNDIRealm.startInternal(JNDIRealm.java:2241) >> ... >>> ... 27 more >>> Mar 13, 2013 8:14:49 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start >>> INFO: Server startup in 34 ms >>> >>> >>> From what I understand, roleSearchAsUser property was designed for >>> people who need to bind on any LDAP where anonymous bind is not >>> authorized. But it's just impossible to do this if the JNDI Realm >>> tries to authenticate anonymously by itself during the startup. >> >> I read the docs as follows: >> >> If your directory server does not allow to scan for roles as >anonymous >> user and you don't want to configure a technical user (by specifying >> connectionName and connectionPassword) you can delegate the >> credentials >> of the user that is currently logging in. >> >> It is not intended to set the user credentials for all ldap >> operations. >> >> The easiest way to fix it, is to setup an technical user inside your >> directory, which has no right other than to login and lookup your >> users, >> which would be the next operation. >> >> Regards >> Felix >>> >>> I suppose it's necessary to investigate further this bug : >>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19444 >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
