RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-18 Thread Mike Wannamaker
a services layer that these other groups will write services and plug into it in order to start their services. I already have this working on our own app server, as well as JBoss. However, we would also like to support possibly straight Tomcat no app server. But to do that I need the same idea

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-18 Thread David Gagnon
a services layer that these other groups will write services and plug into it in order to start their services. I already have this working on our own app server, as well as JBoss. However, we would also like to support possibly straight Tomcat no app server. But to do that I need the same

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-18 Thread Avi Deitcher
and plug into it in order to start their services. I already have this working on our own app server, as well as JBoss. However, we would also like to support possibly straight Tomcat no app server. But to do that I need the same idea that JBoss provides, a way to start up something before

RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-18 Thread Mike Wannamaker
suggestion with LifecycleListener interface. This could be the easiest way for now. Thanks Mike Wannamaker -Original Message- From: Avi Deitcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 18, 2006 10:19 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server Mike, Have you thought

RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Wannamaker
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 13, 2006 4:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Not An App Server How do your webapps communicate with the core services? cheers, David | | | To: 'Tomcat Users List' users

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Timothy Collett
On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Mike Wannamaker wrote: So I would like to be able to somehow have Tomcat start our core services, much the way that JBoss would, before loading any web apps. Does anyone have any ideas on how that could be accomplished. My guess (which should be taken with a

RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Wannamaker
PROTECTED] Sent: July 17, 2006 8:26 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Mike Wannamaker wrote: So I would like to be able to somehow have Tomcat start our core services, much the way that JBoss would, before loading any web apps. Does

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Gainty
message without making a copy. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Mike Wannamaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat Not An App Server I would love to just use JBoss, but there is a lot

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Christopher Schultz
Mike, What I've done is ripped out our core services from our internal app server and provided an app server connector layer. The idea is that we'll be able to plug into any app server like container. Our own internal, JBoss, WebSphere, Tomcat??? That is the idea. So we have customers

RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Wannamaker
/common/lib? Mike Wannamaker -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 17, 2006 12:39 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server Mike, What I've done is ripped out our core services from our internal app server and provided

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Christopher Schultz
Mike, Here's a suggestion: create a new webapp that doesn't actually have any servlets. Just create a ContextListener that responds to START and STOP requests, and use the listener to startup your services. I believe you and Martin are saying the same thing. I could do that however I would

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Timothy Collett
On Jul 17, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Mike Wannamaker wrote: I thought maybe it was possible to add something to server.xml to get a component to startup. Perhaps I'd have it implement a Tomcat Interface but I could do that and then have it only start once per Tomcat Instance. Either way I need my

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Gainty
and destroy the original message without making a copy. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Timothy Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server On Jul 17, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Mike

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-17 Thread Timothy Collett
On Jul 17, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: commons/lib is for CATALINA specific implementations as well as any jar'ed versions of new Jasper compiler(s) http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jasper-howto.html I was given the impression that it was more generally the place to put

Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Wannamaker
I know that Tomcat is not really an App Server like JBoss etc... However, if I had a component that was not a web application and I wanted to start it inside tomcat how could I do that ? Is there some configuration file I would need to add something to in order to have a component started and

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Mike, I know that Tomcat is not really an App Server like JBoss etc... Some may argue with me, but I would consider Tomcat an app server. JBoss happens to be an EJB container as well as a servlet container (and provides some other services as well), while Tomcat provides only the servlet

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread David Smith
Tomcat's not really an app server? Geee really, I feel so inadequate now. :-( Seriously, I think I've seen this religious war around here somewhere and it really depends on definition. No, it's not a full J2EE container, but it's definitely an app server in my opinion. Have you read the

RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Wannamaker
anything into the web apps themselves to try and start it. TIA Mike Wannamaker -Original Message- From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 13, 2006 4:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server Tomcat's not really an app server? Geee really, I feel so

Re: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread dhay
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RE: Tomcat Not An App Server

2006-07-13 Thread dhay
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