Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-29 Thread Mark Thomas
On 29/05/2012 17:30, John Renne wrote: > >> Anyone who considers AJP a secure protocol is clearly clueless when >> it comes to security. >> > Anyone that thinks he can judge security without knowing any of the > requirements is plain wrong. As I wrote in a previous answer. It all > depends on req

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-29 Thread John Renne
> Anyone who considers AJP a secure protocol is clearly clueless when it comes > to security. > Anyone that thinks he can judge security without knowing any of the requirements is plain wrong. As I wrote in a previous answer. It all depends on requirements and what you want to accomplish. Jo

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Al, On 5/28/12 1:35 AM, al so wrote: > It would be nice if I can hear from someone who has done such > familiar setup. Have you seen any performance issues in setting up > SSL both at Tomcat and Apache? As Aristedes states: only you know your environ

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Al, On 5/27/12 2:43 PM, al so wrote: > I've used standalone Tomcat to serve as web server+SSL+web > container in the past. > > Now, I am trying to front Tomcat with apache reverse proxy+SSL. > > 1. Is it not redundant to configure the SSL in the Tom

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-28 Thread markt
John Renne wrote: >Can I ask you what you consider insecure about AJP by the way? AJP is, apart from some simple encoding of a few headers which are easily decoded, a plain text protocol. There is zero encryption. Hence it is not secure. I suggest you read the AJP protocol definition in the d

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-28 Thread John Renne
> What is the typical setup in the enterprise apps? Do they just SSL > terminate at the reverse proxy OR do they setup SSL at both apache and > tomcat? In the former case, obviously the link is insecure between apache > and tomcat. > The most common setup I've seen is to terminate the SSL connect

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-28 Thread al so
What is the typical setup in the enterprise apps? Do they just SSL terminate at the reverse proxy OR do they setup SSL at both apache and tomcat? In the former case, obviously the link is insecure between apache and tomcat. seeking pretty basic clarification.. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:30 AM, A

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-28 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this? It seems to serve little purpose. Decrypt the traffic from the browser using Apache httpd, then re-encrypt the data and pass it onto tomcat. Why? I am sure it will work fine, but your performance will depend on the traffic you have. No one can

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread al so
It would be nice if I can hear from someone who has done such familiar setup. Have you seen any performance issues in setting up SSL both at Tomcat and Apache? Do you use same keys/certs at both Tomcat and Apache? On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:43 AM, al so wrote: > I've used standalone Tomcat to se

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread John Renne
On May 28, 2012, at 12:11 AM, al so wrote: > Well, AJP is not SSL. So, the link is insecure between rev proxy and tomcat > if you don't use SSL. It all depends on what your requirements are. If a binary protocol will you, you can use AJP. If you don't consider it secure, you can choose to go fo

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread al so
Well, AJP is not SSL. So, the link is insecure between rev proxy and tomcat if you don't use SSL. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, John Renne wrote: > > > How about the security concerns in having HTTP between reverse proxy and > > Tomcat? > > > You don't you can use AJP between HTTP and Tomcat

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread John Renne
> How about the security concerns in having HTTP between reverse proxy and > Tomcat? > You don't you can use AJP between HTTP and Tomcat. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional comma

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread al so
How about the security concerns in having HTTP between reverse proxy and Tomcat? On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, John Renne wrote: > > > > Now, I am trying to front Tomcat with apache reverse proxy+SSL. > > 1. Is it not redundant to configure the SSL in the Tomcat as well when > the > > fronti

Re: fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread John Renne
> > Now, I am trying to front Tomcat with apache reverse proxy+SSL. > 1. Is it not redundant to configure the SSL in the Tomcat as well when the > fronting reverse proxy is already configured to handle SSL. >I see lot of posts on the internet which configure SSL at both Tomcat > and Reverse pr

fronting tomcat with reverse proxy+SSL

2012-05-27 Thread al so
I've used standalone Tomcat to serve as web server+SSL+web container in the past. Now, I am trying to front Tomcat with apache reverse proxy+SSL. 1. Is it not redundant to configure the SSL in the Tomcat as well when the fronting reverse proxy is already configured to handle SSL. I see lot of