Re: Java 9 support + HSTS for tomcat.apache.org

2017-09-28 Thread Oliver Heister
> > IMO a remark regarding Java 9 should be added to
> > http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html .
>
> Sounds good. I don't know of anything specific that does NOT work with
> Java 9, but markt has been following the pre-releases of Java 9 pretty
> closely, and has made adjustments (mostly disabling various
> workarounds for bugs in previous JVMs) accordingly. There may be some
> NEW items that may need to be worked-around -- those usually turn out
> to be various ClassLoader-pinning memory-leaks -- but my guess is that
> most Tomcat versions will work just find under Java 9 without any
> special effort.
>
> Could you try (the latest patch-level of) whatever version of Tomcat
> you are currently using with Java 9 and let us know how things go?

It looks like Tomcat 8.5.23 and Tomcat 9.0.1 Beta will be released
soon and they include the fix mentioned in
https://marc.info/?l=tomcat-dev=150617928913339=2 . So we will
test Tomcat 8.5.23.


> > 2. Currently MITM attacks by evil ISPs or WiFi networks are
> > possible against people downloading tomcat from
> > http://tomcat.apache.org/download-80.cgi . (The page has links to
> > PGP, md5 and sha1 hashes for validation, but the links are on a
> > http page that does not redirect to https. This means they could be
> > replaced in case of MITM.)
> >
> > IMO a HTTP 301 redirect to the https version and HSTS headers
> > should be added to http://tomcat.apache.org/ .
>
> Agreed about the redirect... not so sure about HSTS, as that affects
> the whole domain.

HSTS (RFC 6797) would only affect http://tomcat.apache.org/ .
"HSTS preload" would affect the base domain and all subdomains.


> > Should I try to submit issues in Bugzilla for both?
>
> Yes, please. Post-back with URLs to the BZ issues you raise.

OK.

Regards
Oliver

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Java 9 support + HSTS for tomcat.apache.org

2017-09-26 Thread Oliver Heister
Hi all,

I have two suggestions:

1. The table on http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html has a column
“Supported Java Versions” which has entries like “8 and later”.  My
understanding from e.g.
https://marc.info/?l=tomcat-dev=150617891913261=2 is that currently no
stable tomcat release supports Java 9 yet.

IMO a remark regarding Java 9 should be added to
http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html .


 2. Currently MITM attacks by evil ISPs or WiFi networks are possible
against people downloading tomcat from
http://tomcat.apache.org/download-80.cgi . (The page has links to PGP, md5
and sha1 hashes for validation, but the links are on a http page that does
not redirect to https. This means they could be replaced in case of MITM.)

IMO a HTTP 301 redirect to the https version and HSTS headers should be
added to http://tomcat.apache.org/ .



Should I try to submit issues in Bugzilla for both?


Best Regards

Oliver