Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Leon,

On 2/17/2011 2:29 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

 We're working on some decent instrumentation tools to
 basically log all kinds of stuff like this on a regular interval... say
 every minute or five minutes. I could connect to the JVM using JConsole
 and ask Tomcat for the session count (all users have a session) but the
 event is long gone so any information I get now would not be directly
 relevant.
 
 reinventing the wheel? :-)
 http://moskito.anotheria.net among others...

I should have been more clear: we're working on instrumenting our app...
not necessarily writing the instrumentation ourselves.

Does Moskito do simple things like log at intervals? Or do you have to
view things as HTML-rendered reports? I want something I can process
with command-line tools and ultimately feed into JasperReports.

- -chris
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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 2/15/2011 5:57 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
 
 This error occurred /once/ at 16:39 EDT and it's 17:39 EDT now
 
 Is it likely that this was something acute and that my server is okay?
 
 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 129355080 (123.36261749267578MB)
free = 4862648 (4.637382507324219MB)
96.37704491615295% used
 
 The above shows that the problem persists, even though at least some
 work is getting done.  With multiple cores available, you may be able
 to get away with a saturated heap for a while, but a server restart
 is in order at your earliest convenience.  But before doing that, try
 running jhat or equivalent to find out what's eating up the space.

It seems that jmap won't do anything (like -histo) besides the heap map
without using the -F switch. When I use the -F switch, the whole JVM
pauses while it does the heap walk. I killed the jmap process and
everything continued. I'll have to wait until off-hours to take it's
temperature and bounce the server.

On the other hand, I've invoked System.gc which ran quickly and freed up
a lot of memory. Here's what jmap reports this morning:

Heap Configuration:
   MinHeapFreeRatio = 40
   MaxHeapFreeRatio = 70
   MaxHeapSize  = 201326592 (192.0MB)
   NewSize  = 1048576 (1.0MB)
   MaxNewSize   = 4294901760 (4095.9375MB)
   OldSize  = 4194304 (4.0MB)
   NewRatio = 2
   SurvivorRatio= 8
   PermSize = 16777216 (16.0MB)
   MaxPermSize  = 67108864 (64.0MB)

Heap Usage:
PS Young Generation
Eden Space:
   capacity = 54263808 (51.75MB)
   used = 35766400 (34.1094970703125MB)
   free = 18497408 (17.6405029296875MB)
   65.9120716334541% used
- From Space:
   capacity = 6094848 (5.8125MB)
   used = 5233120 (4.990692138671875MB)
   free = 861728 (0.821807861328125MB)
   85.86137012768818% used
To Space:
   capacity = 6422528 (6.125MB)
   used = 0 (0.0MB)
   free = 6422528 (6.125MB)
   0.0% used
PS Old Generation
   capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
   used = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
   free = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
   46.12782597541809% used
PS Perm Generation
   capacity = 20578304 (19.625MB)
   used = 20152712 (19.21912384033203MB)
   free = 425592 (0.40587615966796875MB)
   97.93184122462182% used

Looks like I've got a lot more wiggle room, now, in the Old generation.
Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I schedule a
restart ASAP? I'd prefer to wait until off hours.

We do have a couple of operations that foolishly load way too much
information into memory all at once and cache it in the session (oops),
so I suspect one (or more) of those operations was performed and the
objects were reachable for a while (lived in the session, probably) but
then eventually became collectible and GC recovered.

Quick question: does anyone know if it's safe to truncate catalina.out
while Tomcat is running? Something like this:

cp catalina.out catalina.out.old   catalina.out

??

I'd like to stop getting my the sky is falling emails that are
triggered by the presence of the string OutOfMemoryError in
catalina.out :)

Thanks,
- -chris
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RE: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 Here's what jmap reports this morning:

 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
free = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
46.12782597541809% used

Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I 
 schedule a restart ASAP?

I'd let it run, and see what happens.
 
 I suspect one (or more) of those operations was performed 
 and the objects were reachable for a while (lived in the 
 session, probably) but then eventually became collectible
 and GC recovered.

Sounds highly plausible.

 - Chuck


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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 Here's what jmap reports this morning:

 PS Old Generation
    capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
    used     = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
    free     = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
    46.12782597541809% used

 Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I
 schedule a restart ASAP?

 I'd let it run, and see what happens.

 I suspect one (or more) of those operations was performed
 and the objects were reachable for a while (lived in the
 session, probably) but then eventually became collectible
 and GC recovered.

 Sounds highly plausible.

Do you log number of users/sessions? Would probably be interesting to
see this in correlation.
Leon

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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Leon,

On 2/16/2011 11:53 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
 chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 Here's what jmap reports this morning:

 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
free = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
46.12782597541809% used

 Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I
 schedule a restart ASAP?

 I'd let it run, and see what happens.

 I suspect one (or more) of those operations was performed
 and the objects were reachable for a while (lived in the
 session, probably) but then eventually became collectible
 and GC recovered.

 Sounds highly plausible.
 
 Do you log number of users/sessions? Would probably be interesting to
 see this in correlation.

Not currently. We're working on some decent instrumentation tools to
basically log all kinds of stuff like this on a regular interval... say
every minute or five minutes. I could connect to the JVM using JConsole
and ask Tomcat for the session count (all users have a session) but the
event is long gone so any information I get now would not be directly
relevant.

Thanks,
- -chris
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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 2/16/2011 11:37 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
 
 Here's what jmap reports this morning:
 
 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
free = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
46.12782597541809% used
 
 Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

Definitely. It may have broken loose much earlier... I just didn't
observe it again after my initial post last night.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I 
 schedule a restart ASAP?
 
 I'd let it run, and see what happens.

:)

Should I be concerned that neither jstack not jmap will run against the
JVM unless I specify the -F switch?

Thanks,
- -chris
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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Ronald Klop



Op woensdag, 16 februari 2011 18:17 schreef Christopher Schultz 
ch...@christopherschultz.net:


 


Chuck,

On 2/16/2011 11:37 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 Here's what jmap reports this morning:

 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
free = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
46.12782597541809% used

 Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

Definitely. It may have broken loose much earlier... I just didn't
observe it again after my initial post last night.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I
 schedule a restart ASAP?

 I'd let it run, and see what happens.

:)

Should I be concerned that neither jstack not jmap will run against the
JVM unless I specify the -F switch?

Thanks,
- -chris
 






I see the same problem with jstack and friends if a process is gc'ing a lot.

Ronald.

Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Ronald,

On 2/16/2011 12:48 PM, Ronald Klop wrote:
 I see the same problem with jstack and friends if a process is gc'ing a
 lot.

Interesting.

I don't have verbose GC enabled (can you enable that after JVM launch
using JConsole or something like that?), but the process doesn't seem to
be using a ton of CPU time which I would expect from a very active GC.

Do you observe this only when GC is /currently/ active or after there
has been a lot of GC activity. I'm wondering if the JVM is in a state
where everything is working properly except that one small things has
broken and prevents these tools from working without sprinkling the
force magic onto them.

Thanks,
- -chris
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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Ronald Klop



Op woensdag, 16 februari 2011 19:18 schreef Christopher Schultz 
ch...@christopherschultz.net:


 


Ronald,

On 2/16/2011 12:48 PM, Ronald Klop wrote:
 I see the same problem with jstack and friends if a process is gc'ing a
 lot.

Interesting.

I don't have verbose GC enabled (can you enable that after JVM launch
using JConsole or something like that?), but the process doesn't seem to
be using a ton of CPU time which I would expect from a very active GC.

Do you observe this only when GC is /currently/ active or after there
has been a lot of GC activity. I'm wondering if the JVM is in a state
where everything is working properly except that one small things has
broken and prevents these tools from working without sprinkling the
force magic onto them.

Thanks,
- -chris
 






Where it is /currently/ active. I don't do much jstack/jmap if there is no 
problem, so can't really say something about it.

Ronald.

Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-16 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Christopher Schultz
ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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 Leon,

 On 2/16/2011 11:53 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
 chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Subject: Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 Here's what jmap reports this morning:

 PS Old Generation
    capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
    used     = 61911720 (59.043617248535156MB)
    free     = 72306008 (68.95638275146484MB)
    46.12782597541809% used

 Interesting.  Something must have broken loose overnight.

 Does this look healthy enough to continue, or should I
 schedule a restart ASAP?

 I'd let it run, and see what happens.

 I suspect one (or more) of those operations was performed
 and the objects were reachable for a while (lived in the
 session, probably) but then eventually became collectible
 and GC recovered.

 Sounds highly plausible.

 Do you log number of users/sessions? Would probably be interesting to
 see this in correlation.

 Not currently. We're working on some decent instrumentation tools to
 basically log all kinds of stuff like this on a regular interval... say
 every minute or five minutes. I could connect to the JVM using JConsole
 and ask Tomcat for the session count (all users have a session) but the
 event is long gone so any information I get now would not be directly
 relevant.

reinventing the wheel? :-)
http://moskito.anotheria.net among others...

best regards
Leon


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[OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-15 Thread Christopher Schultz
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All,

This is not Tomcat-related but I figured I'd ask as there are some smart
folks here who might be able to give me some good information.

As the title suggests, I have suffered an OOME in production with the
message GC overhead limit exceeded. A quick Google search yielded this
StackOverflow thread:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1393486/what-means-the-error-message-java-lang-outofmemoryerror-gc-overhead-limit-excee

Evidently, when the GC takes a long time to accomplish nothing, you get
this error.

This error occurred /once/ at 16:39 EDT and it's 17:39 EDT now and I can
see the following heap information from my still-running process:

Maximum Memory JVM will use: 190775296 bytes (186304 KiB, 181 MiB)
Memory Not yet Allocated to JVM: 0 bytes (0 KiB, 0 MiB)
Total Memory Allocated to JVM: 190775296 bytes (186304 KiB, 181 MiB)
Free Memory: 21809336 (21298 KiB, 20 MiB)
Memory Used by JVM: 168965960 (165005 KiB, 161 MiB)

The application appears to be running as expected for now. Is it likely
that this was something acute and that my server is okay? Obviously,
increasing heap space is probably a good idea in general in this
situation as it looks like I simply need more for my user load.
Unfortunately, I haven't been keeping GC or other heap records for a
while... I'll certainly be restarting that process.

The only heap/GC options I've set are:

- -Xms192M -Xmx192M

All else is the default for this JVM, which is:

java version 1.6.0_23
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_23-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)

FYI jmap reports:

Server compiler detected.
JVM version is 19.0-b09

using thread-local object allocation.
Parallel GC with 4 thread(s)

Heap Configuration:
   MinHeapFreeRatio = 40
   MaxHeapFreeRatio = 70
   MaxHeapSize  = 201326592 (192.0MB)
   NewSize  = 1048576 (1.0MB)
   MaxNewSize   = 4294901760 (4095.9375MB)
   OldSize  = 4194304 (4.0MB)
   NewRatio = 2
   SurvivorRatio= 8
   PermSize = 16777216 (16.0MB)
   MaxPermSize  = 67108864 (64.0MB)

Heap Usage:
PS Young Generation
Eden Space:
   capacity = 45613056 (43.5MB)
   used = 15735344 (15.006393432617188MB)
   free = 29877712 (28.493606567382812MB)
   34.49745616693606% used
- From Space:
   capacity = 10551296 (10.0625MB)
   used = 2172200 (2.0715713500976562MB)
   free = 8379096 (7.990928649902344MB)
   20.587044473020185% used
To Space:
   capacity = 10158080 (9.6875MB)
   used = 0 (0.0MB)
   free = 10158080 (9.6875MB)
   0.0% used
PS Old Generation
   capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
   used = 129355080 (123.36261749267578MB)
   free = 4862648 (4.637382507324219MB)
   96.37704491615295% used
PS Perm Generation
   capacity = 20316160 (19.375MB)
   used = 20088520 (19.15790557861328MB)
   free = 227640 (0.21709442138671875MB)
   98.87951266381049% used

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
- -chris
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Re: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-15 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Your old is full. Either a memory leak or you simply need more (and
old gen of 128Mb is virtually nothing). Increase :-)

regards
Leon

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 All,

 This is not Tomcat-related but I figured I'd ask as there are some smart
 folks here who might be able to give me some good information.

 As the title suggests, I have suffered an OOME in production with the
 message GC overhead limit exceeded. A quick Google search yielded this
 StackOverflow thread:

 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1393486/what-means-the-error-message-java-lang-outofmemoryerror-gc-overhead-limit-excee

 Evidently, when the GC takes a long time to accomplish nothing, you get
 this error.

 This error occurred /once/ at 16:39 EDT and it's 17:39 EDT now and I can
 see the following heap information from my still-running process:

 Maximum Memory JVM will use: 190775296 bytes (186304 KiB, 181 MiB)
 Memory Not yet Allocated to JVM: 0 bytes (0 KiB, 0 MiB)
 Total Memory Allocated to JVM: 190775296 bytes (186304 KiB, 181 MiB)
 Free Memory: 21809336 (21298 KiB, 20 MiB)
 Memory Used by JVM: 168965960 (165005 KiB, 161 MiB)

 The application appears to be running as expected for now. Is it likely
 that this was something acute and that my server is okay? Obviously,
 increasing heap space is probably a good idea in general in this
 situation as it looks like I simply need more for my user load.
 Unfortunately, I haven't been keeping GC or other heap records for a
 while... I'll certainly be restarting that process.

 The only heap/GC options I've set are:

 - -Xms192M -Xmx192M

 All else is the default for this JVM, which is:

 java version 1.6.0_23
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_23-b05)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)

 FYI jmap reports:

 Server compiler detected.
 JVM version is 19.0-b09

 using thread-local object allocation.
 Parallel GC with 4 thread(s)

 Heap Configuration:
   MinHeapFreeRatio = 40
   MaxHeapFreeRatio = 70
   MaxHeapSize      = 201326592 (192.0MB)
   NewSize          = 1048576 (1.0MB)
   MaxNewSize       = 4294901760 (4095.9375MB)
   OldSize          = 4194304 (4.0MB)
   NewRatio         = 2
   SurvivorRatio    = 8
   PermSize         = 16777216 (16.0MB)
   MaxPermSize      = 67108864 (64.0MB)

 Heap Usage:
 PS Young Generation
 Eden Space:
   capacity = 45613056 (43.5MB)
   used     = 15735344 (15.006393432617188MB)
   free     = 29877712 (28.493606567382812MB)
   34.49745616693606% used
 - From Space:
   capacity = 10551296 (10.0625MB)
   used     = 2172200 (2.0715713500976562MB)
   free     = 8379096 (7.990928649902344MB)
   20.587044473020185% used
 To Space:
   capacity = 10158080 (9.6875MB)
   used     = 0 (0.0MB)
   free     = 10158080 (9.6875MB)
   0.0% used
 PS Old Generation
   capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
   used     = 129355080 (123.36261749267578MB)
   free     = 4862648 (4.637382507324219MB)
   96.37704491615295% used
 PS Perm Generation
   capacity = 20316160 (19.375MB)
   used     = 20088520 (19.15790557861328MB)
   free     = 227640 (0.21709442138671875MB)
   98.87951266381049% used

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks,
 - -chris
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RE: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

2011-02-15 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: [OT] OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 This error occurred /once/ at 16:39 EDT and it's 17:39 EDT now

 Is it likely that this was something acute and that my server is okay?

 PS Old Generation
capacity = 134217728 (128.0MB)
used = 129355080 (123.36261749267578MB)
free = 4862648 (4.637382507324219MB)
96.37704491615295% used

The above shows that the problem persists, even though at least some work is 
getting done.  With multiple cores available, you may be able to get away with 
a saturated heap for a while, but a server restart is in order at your earliest 
convenience.  But before doing that, try running jhat or equivalent to find out 
what's eating up the space.

 - Chuck


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