Re: [OT] Sending HTTP Trailers from a client (not servlet)

2015-04-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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All,

Bump.

Anyone?

- -chris

On 4/18/15 12:19 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 All,
 
 I've got a perfect use-case for HTTP trailers but it doesn't seem
 like any existing client (e.g. HttpURLConnection, HttpClient) has
 support for them on the /sending/ side.
 
 HttpURLConnection doesn't have a way (that I can see) to fetch 
 trailing headers, but it may just be that you have to consume the 
 response and then check the headers (similar to what you'd do in a 
 Servlet when the client actually sends trailing headers to the
 server).
 
 HttpClient allows you to get the trailing headers from a response
 in a very awkward way by reading them from the ChunkedInputStream
 which is buried a few levels deep, evidently.
 
 But neither seem to have a way to actually *send* headers to the
 server.
 
 Has anyone ever actually done this from a Java-based client? I'm 
 currently using my own wrapper around HttpURLConnection (because 
 HttpClient seemed to heavy for my purposes) and it's been working 
 great for a few years. I'd like to support a streaming mode plus 
 trailer headers with it, and I'd prefer not to dump
 HttpURLConnection and replace it with low-level socket work because
 them I'll have to do a whole bunch of work to reproduce what
 HttpURLConnection is already providing (e.g. TLS, auto-redirects,
 etc.).
 
 Any ideas from the community?
 
 Thanks, -chris
 
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Re: [OT] Sending HTTP Trailers from a client (not servlet)

2015-04-24 Thread André Warnier

Christopher Schultz wrote:

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All,

Bump.

Anyone?



No, but I tried.  But everything I found seems to say that such trailers are really rarely 
used, and that's probably why you are not getting any echo.
I believe that initially you mentioned that you had found a perfectly good use case, but 
you never explained what it was...




- -chris

On 4/18/15 12:19 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

All,

I've got a perfect use-case for HTTP trailers but it doesn't seem
like any existing client (e.g. HttpURLConnection, HttpClient) has
support for them on the /sending/ side.

HttpURLConnection doesn't have a way (that I can see) to fetch 
trailing headers, but it may just be that you have to consume the 
response and then check the headers (similar to what you'd do in a 
Servlet when the client actually sends trailing headers to the

server).

HttpClient allows you to get the trailing headers from a response
in a very awkward way by reading them from the ChunkedInputStream
which is buried a few levels deep, evidently.

But neither seem to have a way to actually *send* headers to the
server.

Has anyone ever actually done this from a Java-based client? I'm 
currently using my own wrapper around HttpURLConnection (because 
HttpClient seemed to heavy for my purposes) and it's been working 
great for a few years. I'd like to support a streaming mode plus 
trailer headers with it, and I'd prefer not to dump

HttpURLConnection and replace it with low-level socket work because
them I'll have to do a whole bunch of work to reproduce what
HttpURLConnection is already providing (e.g. TLS, auto-redirects,
etc.).

Any ideas from the community?

Thanks, -chris

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Re: [OT] Sending HTTP Trailers from a client (not servlet)

2015-04-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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André,

On 4/24/15 10:17 AM, André Warnier wrote:
 No, but I tried.  But everything I found seems to say that such 
 trailers are really rarely used, and that's probably why you are
 not getting any echo.
 
 I believe that initially you mentioned that you had found a 
 perfectly good use case, but you never explained what it was...

I'm happy to explain. It's actually kind of the poster-child for trailer
s.

I have an XML message that I'd like to send to a server, and I'd like to
sign it with a cryptographic signature (an HMAC, actually). I'd like to
be able to support LARGE messages, even though for the most part, they
are currently small. In order to do this today, we read the *whole*
message from wherever it came from, HMAC the whole thing, then contact
the server and send the HMAC as a header, then dump the *whole* message
into the request entity.

These days, most messages are at more a few kb or whatever, so buffering
them in memory isn't a big deal. Also, the client isn't on a server, so
it's not like we are going to make much in the way of resource issues,
here.

Anyhow, I'd love to be able to support a more streaming-friendly
interface so we could handle huge messages. We would simply stream the
XML as the request entity, and when it was done, we'd add the trailer
that says oh, btw, the HMAC was [x].

I hope that clears things up.

Thanks,
- -chris

 On 4/18/15 12:19 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 All,
 
 I've got a perfect use-case for HTTP trailers but it doesn't 
 seem like any existing client (e.g. HttpURLConnection, 
 HttpClient) has support for them on the /sending/ side.
 
 HttpURLConnection doesn't have a way (that I can see) to
 fetch trailing headers, but it may just be that you have to
 consume the response and then check the headers (similar to
 what you'd do in a Servlet when the client actually sends
 trailing headers to the server).
 
 HttpClient allows you to get the trailing headers from a 
 response in a very awkward way by reading them from the 
 ChunkedInputStream which is buried a few levels deep, 
 evidently.
 
 But neither seem to have a way to actually *send* headers to 
 the server.
 
 Has anyone ever actually done this from a Java-based client? 
 I'm currently using my own wrapper around HttpURLConnection 
 (because HttpClient seemed to heavy for my purposes) and
 it's been working great for a few years. I'd like to support
 a streaming mode plus trailer headers with it, and I'd prefer
 not to dump HttpURLConnection and replace it with low-level
 socket work because them I'll have to do a whole bunch of
 work to reproduce what HttpURLConnection is already providing
 (e.g. TLS, auto-redirects, etc.).
 
 Any ideas from the community?
 
 Thanks, -chris
 
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[OT] Sending HTTP Trailers from a client (not servlet)

2015-04-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
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All,

I've got a perfect use-case for HTTP trailers but it doesn't seem like
any existing client (e.g. HttpURLConnection, HttpClient) has support
for them on the /sending/ side.

HttpURLConnection doesn't have a way (that I can see) to fetch
trailing headers, but it may just be that you have to consume the
response and then check the headers (similar to what you'd do in a
Servlet when the client actually sends trailing headers to the server).

HttpClient allows you to get the trailing headers from a response in a
very awkward way by reading them from the ChunkedInputStream which is
buried a few levels deep, evidently.

But neither seem to have a way to actually *send* headers to the server.

Has anyone ever actually done this from a Java-based client? I'm
currently using my own wrapper around HttpURLConnection (because
HttpClient seemed to heavy for my purposes) and it's been working
great for a few years. I'd like to support a streaming mode plus
trailer headers with it, and I'd prefer not to dump HttpURLConnection
and replace it with low-level socket work because them I'll have to do
a whole bunch of work to reproduce what HttpURLConnection is already
providing (e.g. TLS, auto-redirects, etc.).

Any ideas from the community?

Thanks,
- -chris
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