Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 2/24/2010 10:00 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Carl [mailto:c...@etrak-plus.com] Subject: RE: Tomcat dies suddenly the core files on my systems were in several directories I wonder if the above is a clue to what's going on. I've always seen core files written to the current directory of the dying process, never scattered around arbitrarily. Tomcat's current directory should be $CATALINA_HOME/bin; Mine never is, but I run using catalina.sh, which doesn't execute a 'cd' anywhere. Maybe this happens when running as a Windows service or something, but I don't see this behavior when running on *NIX. if one of the webapps is changing the current directory, could that be contributing to the failure by confusing other code or the JVM? (Or is this just another of the many red herrings?) I suppose that's possible. Carl, are the core files all from the same run? If so, something is very very wrong. Otherwise, maybe the reason why you couldn't find any traces of your crash was that your CWD was changing from what you expected it to be to some random subdirectory. shrug - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuFQnoACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PBZYACgjd19BIr41ucOAenBQVE7//S6 ltoAnRyndQdsC8h70kshy1p7bkVgi6nY =+ndQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
Chris, As I said in an email a minute ago, I use a cron process to stop Tomcat, copy in new war's and restart Tomcat at 1:00AM. The script is pretty simple: JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java; export JAVA_HOME cd /usr/local/tomcat/bin ./shutdown.sh sleep 60 rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/livonia rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/default rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/paragon cp /usr/local/tomcat_wars/etrak-plus.war /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/livonia.war cp /usr/local/tomcat_wars/etrak-plus.war /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/default.war cp /usr/local/tomcat_wars/etrak-plus.war /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/paragon.war cp /usr/local/tomcat_wars/etrak-plus.war /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/test.war sleep 30 strace -o /usr/local/tomcat/logs/trace_log.txt /usr/local/tomcat/bin/startup.sh exit I am reworking the strace part to rotate the logs. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 2/24/2010 10:00 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Carl [mailto:c...@etrak-plus.com] Subject: RE: Tomcat dies suddenly the core files on my systems were in several directories I wonder if the above is a clue to what's going on. I've always seen core files written to the current directory of the dying process, never scattered around arbitrarily. Tomcat's current directory should be $CATALINA_HOME/bin; Mine never is, but I run using catalina.sh, which doesn't execute a 'cd' anywhere. Maybe this happens when running as a Windows service or something, but I don't see this behavior when running on *NIX. if one of the webapps is changing the current directory, could that be contributing to the failure by confusing other code or the JVM? (Or is this just another of the many red herrings?) I suppose that's possible. Carl, are the core files all from the same run? If so, something is very very wrong. Otherwise, maybe the reason why you couldn't find any traces of your crash was that your CWD was changing from what you expected it to be to some random subdirectory. shrug - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuFQnoACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PBZYACgjd19BIr41ucOAenBQVE7//S6 ltoAnRyndQdsC8h70kshy1p7bkVgi6nY =+ndQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
On 24/02/2010 15:15, Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 2/24/2010 10:00 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Carl [mailto:c...@etrak-plus.com] Subject: RE: Tomcat dies suddenly the core files on my systems were in several directories I wonder if the above is a clue to what's going on. I've always seen core files written to the current directory of the dying process, never scattered around arbitrarily. Tomcat's current directory should be $CATALINA_HOME/bin; I usually see dumps in $CATALINA_HOME/logs, which is where I am habitually if I'm starting up from a script. p Mine never is, but I run using catalina.sh, which doesn't execute a 'cd' anywhere. Maybe this happens when running as a Windows service or something, but I don't see this behavior when running on *NIX. if one of the webapps is changing the current directory, could that be contributing to the failure by confusing other code or the JVM? (Or is this just another of the many red herrings?) I suppose that's possible. Carl, are the core files all from the same run? If so, something is very very wrong. Otherwise, maybe the reason why you couldn't find any traces of your crash was that your CWD was changing from what you expected it to be to some random subdirectory. shrug - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuFQnoACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PBZYACgjd19BIr41ucOAenBQVE7//S6 ltoAnRyndQdsC8h70kshy1p7bkVgi6nY =+ndQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
2010/2/24 Carl c...@etrak-plus.com: rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/livonia rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/default rm -rf /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/paragon 1). test webapp not mentioned 2). note that there are also webapp files in the work/ directory and there might be a context file in a subdirectory of conf (e.g. conf/Catalina/localhost/) If you need a 100% clean run, you may want to consider explicitly removing all the files from the webapp working directory in work/. strace -o /usr/local/tomcat/logs/trace_log.txt /usr/local/tomcat/bin/startup.sh Note that startup.sh (aka catalina.sh start) will spawn a new process. I have never used strace myself, but it unlikely will be able to follow that. You should try catalina.sh run instead. Best regards, Konstantin Kolinko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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André Warnier wrote: Now I am very curious, because I happen to have supplied the media archive management software used by a very large broadcasting organisation, where a similar story happened to the server running ditto software (this was a few years ago). Right after that incident, the organisation in question purchased a second server and a second copy of the software, and asked a partner of mine to design a failover solution. Of course we do not want to name anyone precisely, but it would be funny if this was the same incident. ? You turned adversity into advantage. Good business lesson. :) I believe it is not the same company, mine was educational institution, and the incident was more than 10 years ago. Anyway, it is good to know that fellow developers and administrators are facing the same problems, around the globe. -Ognjen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Carl wrote: ... I was thinking maybe Andre could do the same for my servers, you know, with his telepathy thingie and all. You are confusing people. The telepath on this list is Pid. He is particularly good at guessing the OS, JVM, Tomcat version etc.. of people who post here without specifying them. Chuck is our resident servlet spec authority and general enforcer, with a special interest in memory allocation and GC issues. Christopher is more into esoteric code-splitting stuff, with sidelines in alphabets, sessions and performance issues. Then there is an assorted series of intermittent characters with various specialties. We also have a couple of official buffoons. And then of course there are Mark and Filip, the top gurus and fathers of us all, who sometimes condescend to offer their pearls of wisdom to us peons when we really stray off base. They are the ones who create the partition, we merely try to play the tune. As for me, I am just a spectator mostly, happiest when I get some not-too-technical tidbit which I think I can handle just with ze little grey cells, as a mythical compatriot of mine would say. They did not help too much in the present case though. Apart from Mark and Filip, we all had rich uncles in America who left us their fortune, which explains why we can stick around here instead of doing any real work. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
On 17 February 2010 13:55, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: We also have a couple of official buffoons. And a plethora of unofficial ones - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
RE: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
Reminds me of a story from an old-timer friend of mine. This was back in the day of shuddertext-based terminals/shudder. The company he worked for had a military contract to install bunch of terminals in an office building at a local airbase. A few days after the workers moved in, his company got a call that something was wrong. About every few seconds, every terminal would get a string of random characters, each terminal getting a different string. After puzzling over the problem for a bit, he happened to look out the window and see the nearby radar dish sweep past the building at the same time the odd characters appeared. They checked a few random cables and found that the installers had used unshielded cables to save a few pennies. According to him, they spent the weekend wrapping the major cable bundles in foil as a stop-gap until they could come in and replace all the cables. -Original Message- From: George Sexton [mailto:geor...@mhsoftware.com] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:58 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly -Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Caldarale, Charles R wrote: Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? There's a story in a book I once read where a computer system crashed every morning around the same time. No one could figure it out. Finally, the head of IS goes down to the computer room at the expected time. In walks a maintenance man who comes in, opens the cabinet for the computer, and plugs a floor polisher into a spare outlet in the cabinet. When the maintenance man activates the polisher, boom, the system crashed. When asked by his boss what the problem was, he told him it was a buffer problem. http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328 I used to have a Novell server that would mysteriously reboot every few days. In my case, the server was on the same circuit as a laser printer, and both were plugged into a Haworth cubicle outlet. Periodically, load was too much and it would causes a server reboot. We brought in another circuit NOT on the inadequate cubicle wiring system, and the problem went away. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org *** NOTICE * This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by telephone (call us collect at 512-343-9100) and immediately delete this message and all its attachments.
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Heh, when I was in another building I was issued an ADDS Viewpoint terminal which would, every so often, begin typing all by itself and quite at random. Eventually we determined that my cubicle was directly underneath an arc welding station in the welding shop one floor up, and when welding classes were in session the EMI was picked up by my keyboard. (Written from one of my xterms.) -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Friends don't let friends publish revisable-form documents. pgpu1LttJE0ti.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Ognjen Blagojevic wrote: I heard almost the same story in the last company I used to work. The only differences are: instead of floor polisher it was a vacuum cleaner, and there was no spare outlet... :) Now I am very curious, because I happen to have supplied the media archive management software used by a very large broadcasting organisation, where a similar story happened to the server running ditto software (this was a few years ago). Right after that incident, the organisation in question purchased a second server and a second copy of the software, and asked a partner of mine to design a failover solution. Of course we do not want to name anyone precisely, but it would be funny if this was the same incident. ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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An ex-colleague of mine tells the story (which may well be apocryphal, but is good fun) of being called to an industrial estate in South Wales to debug a problem where floppy disks in the office would mysteriously wipe themselves - pretty much every floppy in the office, at the same time. It happened very occasionally, but with no hard disks and the company's financial accounts stored on floppies, this caused considerable problems. They'd been through the usual did-you-stick-it-to-the-filing-cabinet-with-a-fridge-magnet questions, and everyone in the office swore they were taking all reasonable precautions. Eventually she solved the problem when she saw the crane from the scrapyard next door swing a big load of scrap past the office window, all dangling from the large electromagnet at the end of the line... all she could do was recommend they moved offices or stuck a mu-metal cage round the room. - Peter On 16 February 2010 18:57, Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu wrote: Heh, when I was in another building I was issued an ADDS Viewpoint terminal which would, every so often, begin typing all by itself and quite at random. Eventually we determined that my cubicle was directly underneath an arc welding station in the welding shop one floor up, and when welding classes were in session the EMI was picked up by my keyboard. (Written from one of my xterms.) -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Friends don't let friends publish revisable-form documents.
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Peter Crowther peter.crowt...@melandra.com wrote: snip/ Oh, now we're on magnet stories? :-) Back in the day, I was working as an IBM CE in downtown SF. One of our branch specialists and I were in an elevator headed out to a customer's office with a piece of telecom test equipment that had a very powerful magnet on its back to attach to the system cabinet. Chatting away, we only realized as we left the elevator that the guy standing next to us was holding a removable disk pack in a plastic cake-cover -- right next to the test box. Always wondered how that turned out for him when that pack got mounted... -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Jorge, If the problem was easy, there wouldn't be the number of threads. I am running the standard JVM from Sun, in fact, have tried two versions. The boxes are not the problem because the problem appears on two very different boxes. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: Jorge Medina cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly There have been 144 messages on this thread...and you have spent already months trying to solve the problem...I think it will be more cost effective to replace the boxes, run a standard JVM from Sun..and close this thread! On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Anthony, Very certain it is not the hardware, am running Sun JVM, could be the OS. May be my next step (CentOS.) Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: anthonyvie...@gmail.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly CentOS, Sun JVM, IBM Hardware = 100% Uptime On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Jorge Medina cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.comwrote: There have been 144 messages on this thread...and you have spent already months trying to solve the problem...I think it will be more cost effective to replace the boxes, run a standard JVM from Sun..and close this thread! On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
RE: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
-Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Caldarale, Charles R wrote: Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? There's a story in a book I once read where a computer system crashed every morning around the same time. No one could figure it out. Finally, the head of IS goes down to the computer room at the expected time. In walks a maintenance man who comes in, opens the cabinet for the computer, and plugs a floor polisher into a spare outlet in the cabinet. When the maintenance man activates the polisher, boom, the system crashed. When asked by his boss what the problem was, he told him it was a buffer problem. http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328 I used to have a Novell server that would mysteriously reboot every few days. In my case, the server was on the same circuit as a laser printer, and both were plugged into a Haworth cubicle outlet. Periodically, load was too much and it would causes a server reboot. We brought in another circuit NOT on the inadequate cubicle wiring system, and the problem went away. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Most IS people by nature are problem solvers. We like puzzles, and we like solving them. This is a useful exercise because someday this problem or something similar will happen to someone else. If it's really bugging you, no one is forcing you to read the messages. Why don't you just ignore them? George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 -Original Message- From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:45 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly There have been 144 messages on this thread...and you have spent already months trying to solve the problem...I think it will be more cost effective to replace the boxes, run a standard JVM from Sun..and close this thread! On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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George, Been there. In Brookfield (CT), under certain circumstances, when someone would use the copier (not on the same circuit), the Novell server would go down. Here, we have all new wiring directly from the fuse box with really good UPS's in between. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: George Sexton geor...@mhsoftware.com To: 'Tomcat Users List' users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly -Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Caldarale, Charles R wrote: Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? There's a story in a book I once read where a computer system crashed every morning around the same time. No one could figure it out. Finally, the head of IS goes down to the computer room at the expected time. In walks a maintenance man who comes in, opens the cabinet for the computer, and plugs a floor polisher into a spare outlet in the cabinet. When the maintenance man activates the polisher, boom, the system crashed. When asked by his boss what the problem was, he told him it was a buffer problem. http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328 I used to have a Novell server that would mysteriously reboot every few days. In my case, the server was on the same circuit as a laser printer, and both were plugged into a Haworth cubicle outlet. Periodically, load was too much and it would causes a server reboot. We brought in another circuit NOT on the inadequate cubicle wiring system, and the problem went away. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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George Sexton wrote: There's a story in a book I once read where a computer system crashed every morning around the same time. No one could figure it out. Finally, the head of IS goes down to the computer room at the expected time. In walks a maintenance man who comes in, opens the cabinet for the computer, and plugs a floor polisher into a spare outlet in the cabinet. When the maintenance man activates the polisher, boom, the system crashed. I heard almost the same story in the last company I used to work. The only differences are: instead of floor polisher it was a vacuum cleaner, and there was no spare outlet... :) Regards, Ognjen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony, On 2/14/2010 1:01 AM, anthonyvie...@gmail.com wrote: CentOS, Sun JVM, IBM Hardware = 100% Uptime 100%, eh? Care to make a wager? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt4aXQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDdqgCdFW5C4rWO4XwCI9/EK9APlk+K CXIAn3akAol+pBE12guiAz+krXytzV1T =w3u5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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ok i left out the cluster part ;) On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony, On 2/14/2010 1:01 AM, anthonyvie...@gmail.com wrote: CentOS, Sun JVM, IBM Hardware = 100% Uptime 100%, eh? Care to make a wager? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt4aXQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDdqgCdFW5C4rWO4XwCI9/EK9APlk+K CXIAn3akAol+pBE12guiAz+krXytzV1T =w3u5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Chris, You are evil. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony, On 2/14/2010 1:01 AM, anthonyvie...@gmail.com wrote: CentOS, Sun JVM, IBM Hardware = 100% Uptime 100%, eh? Care to make a wager? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt4aXQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDdqgCdFW5C4rWO4XwCI9/EK9APlk+K CXIAn3akAol+pBE12guiAz+krXytzV1T =w3u5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re:[OT] Tomcat dies suddenly
(re relativistic gamma rays, dark energy and all that stuff). I'll take that back quickly before Chuck does me in. Gamma rays being photons, they are always relativistic. Read relativistic protons instead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re:[OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Read relativistic protons instead. Now you're talking about something that can do real damage. (Unlike a WIMP, which seems to be too shy to even show up at the party.) BTW, I was thinking that since the T105 and T110 were both from the same vendor and use the same case, there might be some common design factor causing these mysterious segfaults - but they're radically different on the inside (e.g., AMD vs. Intel, memory speed and type, slots). Not much in common, except perhaps the power supply. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
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Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re:[OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Read relativistic protons instead. Now you're talking about something that can do real damage. (Unlike a WIMP, which seems to be too shy to even show up at the party.) BTW, I was thinking that since the T105 and T110 were both from the same vendor and use the same case, there might be some common design factor causing these mysterious segfaults - but they're radically different on the inside (e.g., AMD vs. Intel, memory speed and type, slots). Not much in common, except perhaps the power supply. Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? d) exorcism? - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
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Chuck, The cases and even power supplies are very different. The T105 is destined to be a backup server and the T110 is supposed to be the front line guy. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: RE: Re:[OT] Tomcat dies suddenly From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re:[OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Read relativistic protons instead. Now you're talking about something that can do real damage. (Unlike a WIMP, which seems to be too shy to even show up at the party.) BTW, I was thinking that since the T105 and T110 were both from the same vendor and use the same case, there might be some common design factor causing these mysterious segfaults - but they're radically different on the inside (e.g., AMD vs. Intel, memory speed and type, slots). Not much in common, except perhaps the power supply. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Since we must have by now exhausted all the normal causes of such errors, maybe we should recommend a) a visual inspection of the systems, to see if there are any pinsize holes, or paint flaking off or so b) the installation of a surveilance camera, to check if the SegFaults are synchronous with any visible phenomenon (sparks, Cerenkow radiation, etc.) c) moving the systems to the basement ? d) exorcism? That makes me think about something, specially since Carl mentioned that there are children involved. Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Like someone bringing coffee or pizzas or so ? I swear that I have seen some long-running applications mysteriously fail as soon as some specific end-users approached a keyboard. They did not have to even touch the keyboard for this to happen. There are programmers like that too, for that matter. Surprise visits by big bosses are also among well-known triggering factors, as are demos to new users. But I think in this case we can eliminate the first one, since the problem happens several times per day. After the first couple of visits, the surprise element would tend to disappear. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
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There have been 144 messages on this thread...and you have spent already months trying to solve the problem...I think it will be more cost effective to replace the boxes, run a standard JVM from Sun..and close this thread! On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
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CentOS, Sun JVM, IBM Hardware = 100% Uptime On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Jorge Medina cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.comwrote: There have been 144 messages on this thread...and you have spent already months trying to solve the problem...I think it will be more cost effective to replace the boxes, run a standard JVM from Sun..and close this thread! On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT] Tomcat dies suddenly Maybe we should also investigate if the SegFaults are simultaneous with anyone specific entering the room where the servers are. Ah yes, the old nylon underwear problem... Or the pizza with plutonium toppings. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
