[OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)

2010-08-03 Thread Markus Schönhaber
03.08.2010 18:14, michel:

 From: Markus Schönhaber tomcat-us...@list-post.mks-mail.de

 03.08.2010 13:20, michel:

 sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...

 No.
 It's not Pid's fault if your mail program doesn't understand PGP/MIME.
 
 OK, I checked online and found
 
 Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages
 Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display the 
 body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two attachments 
 (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to 
 open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been 
 rectified.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages
 
 On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it 
 rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting.

1. I don't see why anyone should not use a perfectly reasonable and
standards compliant way of signing his mails just to please buggy mail
clients.
If you choose to use one of those, then live with it's deficiencies but
don't blame Pid because he uses a 14-year old standard which the vendor
of your mail client has still failed to implement.

2. A quick scan through the 37596 posts to this list in my current
archive (going back till mid-March 2008) shows 957 of them which seem to
be sent with OE. That's roughly 2.5%. At least on this mailing list,
it's not most (not even many people) that use OE.
I doubt that it's much different on other lists with IT subjects.

-- 
Regards
  mks

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Re: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)

2010-08-03 Thread michel


- Original Message - 
From: Markus Schönhaber tomcat-us...@list-post.mks-mail.de

To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?)



03.08.2010 18:14, michel:


From: Markus Schönhaber tomcat-us...@list-post.mks-mail.de



03.08.2010 13:20, michel:


sorry, another empty email with just attachments  ...


No.
It's not Pid's fault if your mail program doesn't understand PGP/MIME.


OK, I checked online and found

Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages
Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display 
the
body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two 
attachments

(one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to
open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been
rectified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages

On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it
rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting.


1. I don't see why anyone should not use a perfectly reasonable and
standards compliant way of signing his mails just to please buggy mail
clients.
If you choose to use one of those, then live with it's deficiencies but
don't blame Pid because he uses a 14-year old standard which the vendor
of your mail client has still failed to implement.

2. A quick scan through the 37596 posts to this list in my current
archive (going back till mid-March 2008) shows 957 of them which seem to
be sent with OE. That's roughly 2.5%. At least on this mailing list,
it's not most (not even many people) that use OE.
I doubt that it's much different on other lists with IT subjects.

--
Regards
 mks



Markus, quite an eye-opener and I will just have to try switching email 
system!




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