[OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
See below. I hope MS Outlook does some decent indend so my response is clear -.- -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: 30. november 2011 18:51 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Ronald Klop (Mailing List)
Op donderdag, 1 december 2011 09:39 schreef Casper Wandahl Schmidt kalle.pri...@gmail.com: See below. I hope MS Outlook does some decent indend so my response is clear -.- -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: 30. november

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Ronald Klop (Mailing List) [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 1. december 2011 12:06 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform Op donderdag, 1 december 2011 09:39 schreef Casper

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:29, Casper Wandahl Schmidt kalle.pri...@gmail.com wrote: [...] That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register to tell the machine where to look in the psysical

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Casper Wandahl Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Francis GALIEGUE [mailto:f...@one2team.com] Sent: 1. december 2011 12:33 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:29, Casper Wandahl Schmidt kalle.pri...@gmail.com

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register to tell the machine where to look in the psysical memory, that is where my

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread André Warnier
Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can only use a 32bit register to tell the machine where to look in the psysical

RE: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform In general: the bigger heap, the longer GC will run. Not strictly true, and hasn't been true for many years. GC time is proportional to the number of live

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
The OS has little to do with the calculation. The CPU hardware is doing it. The processor's address logic uses registers which are wider than 32 bits. Just as you can add a 1-digit number to a 3-digit number and get a 3-digit result, the widget that maps a process' virtual address space to the

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: On the other hand, increasing java heap size is not always the best option. It heavily depends on memory usage pattern in your application. In general: the bigger heap, the longer GC will run. I was thinking that someone

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Casper, On 12/1/11 3:39 AM, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: Aha so I learned something new today :) I'm still puzzled as to how a 32 bit CPU can compute and fetch a memory cell with address above 4GB since it cannot hold this large value. OS != CPU

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikolaj, On 12/1/11 6:38 AM, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:29:14 +0100, Casper Wandahl Schmidt wrote: That didn't quite help me understand, because how can the OS map from ie. 0-4GB to 4-8GB (the window is moved) when it can

Re: [OT]RE: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-12-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, On 12/1/11 9:50 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Mikolaj Rydzewski wrote: On the other hand, increasing java heap size is not always the best option. It heavily depends on memory usage pattern in your

[OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:51, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: [...] Running a machine with more than 4GiB in 32-bit mode isn't stupid at all IMO. If you have relatively small processes, there's no need for the overhead of 64-bit even if you have 16GiB or more. This

Re: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread André Warnier
Francis GALIEGUE wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:51, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: [...] Running a machine with more than 4GiB in 32-bit mode isn't stupid at all IMO. If you have relatively small processes, there's no need for the overhead of 64-bit even if you have

RE: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
Does the fact of having a system with a 64-bit CPU (and OS) necessarily (or usually) imply that data transfers between CPU and RAM happen also 64-bit in parallel ? That depends on front bus width. Modern PCs has 64-bit bus AFAIK. In 64-bit CPU 64 is register size and nothing else (although 86x64

Re: [OT] Re: Maximum memory that can be assigned to Tomcat on windows platform

2011-11-30 Thread Francis GALIEGUE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 22:38, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: [...] I am not knowledgeable at all in such questions, and while you are at it let me ask a question : Does the fact of having a system with a 64-bit CPU (and OS) necessarily (or usually) imply that data transfers between CPU