Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Stafan, On 2/13/20 14:56, Stefan Mayr wrote: Hi Chris, Am 13.02.2020 um 15:31 schrieb Christopher Schultz: [snip] The answer to the question "why change the default?" is: "because the default was essentially insecure, in a way that wasn't obvious to someone who wasn't paying close attention."

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/02/2020 19:56, Stefan Mayr wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Am 13.02.2020 um 15:31 schrieb Christopher Schultz: >> [snip] >> The answer to the question "why change the default?" is: "because the >> default was essentially insecure, in a way that wasn't obvious to >> someone who wasn't paying close

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Stefan Mayr
Hi Chris, Am 13.02.2020 um 15:31 schrieb Christopher Schultz: > [snip] > The answer to the question "why change the default?" is: "because the > default was essentially insecure, in a way that wasn't obvious to > someone who wasn't paying close attention." > > So we are forcing users to pay

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Olivier Jaquemet
On 13/02/2020 15:31, Christopher Schultz wrote: My question would be "why do so many have AJP connectors where no 'address' attribute was specifically configured?" The answer to the question "why change the default?" is: "because the default was essentially insecure, in a way that wasn't

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Peter, On 2/13/20 5:05 AM, logo wrote: > > > Am 2020-02-13 10:57, schrieb Olivier Jaquemet: >> On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote:

RE: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread jonmcalexander
From: Mark Thomas mailto:ma...@apache.org>> Date: Thursday, Feb 13, 2020, 7:38 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users@tomcat.apache.org>> Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available On 13/02/2020 12:42, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote: > Can you sti

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/02/2020 12:42, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote: > Can you still use a shared secret, if desired, while “ > You can specify "0.0.0.0" (IPv4) or "::" (IPv6) to restore the behaviour > of listening on any address > “ Yes. Use (or not) of a secret is independent of the listening

RE: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread jonmcalexander
From: Mark Thomas mailto:ma...@apache.org>> Date: Thursday, Feb 13, 2020, 5:41 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org mailto:users@tomcat.apache.org>> Subject: Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available On 13/02/2020 09:57, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: > On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat w

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/02/2020 12:04, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: > > On 13/02/2020 12:41, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 13/02/2020 09:57, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: >>> I understand the need to introduce a "secured by default" AJP >>> configuration. >>> However, I question one choice that was made for this change : the >>>

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:04 PM Olivier Jaquemet < olivier.jaque...@jalios.com> wrote: > > On 13/02/2020 12:41, Mark Thomas wrote: > > On 13/02/2020 09:57, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: > >> I understand the need to introduce a "secured by default" AJP > >> configuration. > >> However, I question one

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Olivier Jaquemet
On 13/02/2020 12:41, Mark Thomas wrote: On 13/02/2020 09:57, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: I understand the need to introduce a "secured by default" AJP configuration. However, I question one choice that was made for this change : the default behavior of the AJP connector to listen only on the

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/02/2020 09:57, Olivier Jaquemet wrote: > On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet wrote: >>> On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: > - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a > secret >     and to be

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread tomcat/perl
On 13.02.2020 11:05, logo wrote: Am 2020-02-13 10:57, schrieb Olivier Jaquemet: On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread logo
Am 2020-02-13 10:57, schrieb Olivier Jaquemet: On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a secret and to be disabled in the

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Olivier Jaquemet
On 13/02/2020 10:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet wrote: On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a secret and to be disabled in the sample server.xml [snip] Am I correct ? Why such a

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread kohm...@iris.eonet.ne.jp
On 2020/02/13 18:32, Rémy Maucherat wrote: It is obviously best to keep default configurations as stable as possible. But sometimes things have to change ... As a result, you'll indeed need to adjust your server.xml according to your deployment and AJP usage. The documentation for the new

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:33 AM Olivier Jaquemet < olivier.jaque...@jalios.com> wrote: > On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a secret > >>and to be disabled in the sample server.xml > > What was the motivation

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-13 Thread Olivier Jaquemet
On 13/02/2020 01:02, Stefan Mayr wrote: Hi, - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a secret and to be disabled in the sample server.xml What was the motivation behind this breaking change to require a secret or to explitly disable it? What makes an open AJP

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 9.0.31 available

2020-02-12 Thread Stefan Mayr
Hi, > - AJP defaults changed to listen the loopback address, require a secret > and to be disabled in the sample server.xml What was the motivation behind this breaking change to require a secret or to explitly disable it? What makes an open AJP connector more unsafe than an open HTTP