Re: Tomcat Usage Data Interest
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:16 PM Mark Thomas wrote: > On 26/07/2021 12:13, Coty Sutherland wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm curious about whether or not we have/can get some information about > the > > usage of Tomcat out in the wild. Things like download count across > various > > versions (including archived version downloads) for the last few years, > svn > > history and GitHub stats, project website visitors, committer numbers > (and > > some other info which I can get from the regular board reports), counts > of > > tomcat-users list unique topics, etc. I'd like to compile data into a > > community interest report (or something like that) and try to draw some > > insights on which way the Tomcat project is trending. I would also be > > looking to include adoption outside of just the vanilla ASF distro, like > > the most popular Tomcat Docker container, Ansible collection, tomcat > > package downloads from any OS that has the data available, etc. > > > > Does anyone think that such a report has value? Is there already > something > > like this in existence somewhere (there is an annual jrebel technology > > report like https://www.jrebel.com/blog/2020-java-technology-report > which > > is pretty cool, but it's a survey)? Feel free to tell me that this > > undertaking has little value and I can move on to something else :) > > Thoughts? > > In no particular order. > > There is Apache Kibble > https://kibble.apache.org/ > The live demo uses ASF data. > > The mirror network makes download stats tricky. > Yeah, I was thinking that would be the hardest datapoint to try and capture. > We can get Maven central stats via repository.a.o > > In terms of whether a report has value, more insight into the community > is good. The users mailing list is an incredibly small proportion of the > active Tomcat users. Anything that provides us with a better > understanding of the wider community can only help. I'd be particularly > interested in things we could do to broaden our reach. That may well > create some interesting debate on how to best do that. > OK, I'll start gathering some data and circle back at some point :) Thanks for the affirmation. > Mark > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >
Re: Tomcat Usage Data Interest
Excellent. I'll check it out, I'm on a mission to get data about the Tomcat package usage in Fedora and it's proving to be difficult lol On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 5:32 PM Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > Coty, > > On 7/26/21 07:13, Coty Sutherland wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm curious about whether or not we have/can get some information about > the > > usage of Tomcat out in the wild. Things like download count across > various > > versions (including archived version downloads) for the last few years, > svn > > history and GitHub stats, project website visitors, committer numbers > (and > > some other info which I can get from the regular board reports), counts > of > > tomcat-users list unique topics, etc. I'd like to compile data into a > > community interest report (or something like that) and try to draw some > > insights on which way the Tomcat project is trending. I would also be > > looking to include adoption outside of just the vanilla ASF distro, like > > the most popular Tomcat Docker container, Ansible collection, tomcat > > package downloads from any OS that has the data available, etc. > > > > Does anyone think that such a report has value? Is there already > something > > like this in existence somewhere (there is an annual jrebel technology > > report like https://www.jrebel.com/blog/2020-java-technology-report > which > > is pretty cool, but it's a survey)? Feel free to tell me that this > > undertaking has little value and I can move on to something else :) > > Thoughts? > > Certainly would be interesting. > > Debian has "popularity contest". It looks like it would be a ton of > data, but it's available: https://popcon.debian.org/ > > I don't happen to use the Debian-packaged version of Tomcat, but I am a > Debian user and fan. > > -chris > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >
Re: Tomcat Usage Data Interest
Coty, On 7/26/21 07:13, Coty Sutherland wrote: Hi all, I'm curious about whether or not we have/can get some information about the usage of Tomcat out in the wild. Things like download count across various versions (including archived version downloads) for the last few years, svn history and GitHub stats, project website visitors, committer numbers (and some other info which I can get from the regular board reports), counts of tomcat-users list unique topics, etc. I'd like to compile data into a community interest report (or something like that) and try to draw some insights on which way the Tomcat project is trending. I would also be looking to include adoption outside of just the vanilla ASF distro, like the most popular Tomcat Docker container, Ansible collection, tomcat package downloads from any OS that has the data available, etc. Does anyone think that such a report has value? Is there already something like this in existence somewhere (there is an annual jrebel technology report like https://www.jrebel.com/blog/2020-java-technology-report which is pretty cool, but it's a survey)? Feel free to tell me that this undertaking has little value and I can move on to something else :) Thoughts? Certainly would be interesting. Debian has "popularity contest". It looks like it would be a ton of data, but it's available: https://popcon.debian.org/ I don't happen to use the Debian-packaged version of Tomcat, but I am a Debian user and fan. -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Tomcat Usage Data Interest
On 26/07/2021 12:13, Coty Sutherland wrote: Hi all, I'm curious about whether or not we have/can get some information about the usage of Tomcat out in the wild. Things like download count across various versions (including archived version downloads) for the last few years, svn history and GitHub stats, project website visitors, committer numbers (and some other info which I can get from the regular board reports), counts of tomcat-users list unique topics, etc. I'd like to compile data into a community interest report (or something like that) and try to draw some insights on which way the Tomcat project is trending. I would also be looking to include adoption outside of just the vanilla ASF distro, like the most popular Tomcat Docker container, Ansible collection, tomcat package downloads from any OS that has the data available, etc. Does anyone think that such a report has value? Is there already something like this in existence somewhere (there is an annual jrebel technology report like https://www.jrebel.com/blog/2020-java-technology-report which is pretty cool, but it's a survey)? Feel free to tell me that this undertaking has little value and I can move on to something else :) Thoughts? In no particular order. There is Apache Kibble https://kibble.apache.org/ The live demo uses ASF data. The mirror network makes download stats tricky. We can get Maven central stats via repository.a.o In terms of whether a report has value, more insight into the community is good. The users mailing list is an incredibly small proportion of the active Tomcat users. Anything that provides us with a better understanding of the wider community can only help. I'd be particularly interested in things we could do to broaden our reach. That may well create some interesting debate on how to best do that. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Tomcat Usage Data Interest
Hi all, I'm curious about whether or not we have/can get some information about the usage of Tomcat out in the wild. Things like download count across various versions (including archived version downloads) for the last few years, svn history and GitHub stats, project website visitors, committer numbers (and some other info which I can get from the regular board reports), counts of tomcat-users list unique topics, etc. I'd like to compile data into a community interest report (or something like that) and try to draw some insights on which way the Tomcat project is trending. I would also be looking to include adoption outside of just the vanilla ASF distro, like the most popular Tomcat Docker container, Ansible collection, tomcat package downloads from any OS that has the data available, etc. Does anyone think that such a report has value? Is there already something like this in existence somewhere (there is an annual jrebel technology report like https://www.jrebel.com/blog/2020-java-technology-report which is pretty cool, but it's a survey)? Feel free to tell me that this undertaking has little value and I can move on to something else :) Thoughts? Thanks, Coty
