context.xml vs ROOT.xml

2013-04-30 Thread Jason Aleski
I'm wanting to configure a database connection.  I've got my 
configurations stored in the META-INF/context.xml file, but because I'm 
not deploying my application as a WAR, the context.xml is ignored.


I can copy my application's context.xml and place it in the 
tomcat/conf/context.xml and it works.  I can also place the database 
connection in the tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost/ROOT.xml and it works.


My question is, which one should I be using?  I see examples of both 
types of configuration files.  With some of the off-the-shelf 
applications we use, I see it in the ROOT.xml.  But I'm reading a lot 
where people are using the context.xml.  I'm using Tomcat7 and really 
can't find anything that says one file is better than the other.  The 
only thing it looks like is that the ROOT.xml is strictly for that 
particular application container, whereas the context.xml seems more 
global.  If I'm only running one application, does it really matter?  
I've got it working in either case, just more-less curious.


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RE: context.xml vs ROOT.xml

2013-04-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jason Aleski [mailto:jason.ale...@gmail.com] 
 Subject: context.xml vs ROOT.xml

 I've got my configurations stored in the META-INF/context.xml 
 file, but because I'm not deploying my application as a WAR,
 the context.xml is ignored.

Why do you think it's ignored?

 I can copy my application's context.xml and place it in the 
 tomcat/conf/context.xml and it works.

And is exposed to _all_ of your webapps, since conf/context.xml is implicitly 
included in every webapp.

 I can also place the database connection in the 
 tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost/ROOT.xml and it works.

Which is where it belongs, when it's supposed to apply to the default webapp 
only.

 If I'm only running one application, does it really matter?

Are you really running only one application?  Have you actually removed all of 
the others that come with Tomcat, including the manager?

Think about what happens when you decide to install a second webapp; best 
practice dictates that you not have to modify the global config to do so.

 - Chuck


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Re: context.xml vs ROOT.xml

2013-04-30 Thread Jason Aleski

Chuck,

Thank you for your feedback.  I'll reply in order.

1)  I believe it is being ignored because it doesn't see the database 
connection when it is in the META-INF/context.xml.  It does see them 
when I copy the configurations to the other files.  What I read and 
understand is the META-INF/context.xml file is used only when the 
application is deployed via a WAR file.  Have I missed something?


2)  Yes, I did remove the default Tomcat applications.  This is the only 
app I have.


3)  Yea, I want to avoid editing the global config.  That is why I was 
hoping the META-INF method would work.  I guess I will stay with placing 
the configurations in the ROOT.XML.


-JA-



On 4/30/2013 1:16 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Jason Aleski [mailto:jason.ale...@gmail.com]
Subject: context.xml vs ROOT.xml
I've got my configurations stored in the META-INF/context.xml
file, but because I'm not deploying my application as a WAR,
the context.xml is ignored.

Why do you think it's ignored?


I can copy my application's context.xml and place it in the
tomcat/conf/context.xml and it works.

And is exposed to _all_ of your webapps, since conf/context.xml is implicitly 
included in every webapp.


I can also place the database connection in the
tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost/ROOT.xml and it works.

Which is where it belongs, when it's supposed to apply to the default webapp 
only.


If I'm only running one application, does it really matter?

Are you really running only one application?  Have you actually removed all of 
the others that come with Tomcat, including the manager?

Think about what happens when you decide to install a second webapp; best 
practice dictates that you not have to modify the global config to do so.

  - Chuck


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RE: context.xml vs ROOT.xml

2013-04-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jason Aleski [mailto:jason.ale...@gmail.com] 
 Subject: Re: context.xml vs ROOT.xml

Don't top post.

 I believe it is being ignored because it doesn't see the database 
 connection when it is in the META-INF/context.xml.

I believe you must be doing something else that's causing the DB connection to 
go missing.  If you look at a standard Tomcat download, you'll see that the 
manager and host-manager webapps are included as unpacked directories, 
including META-INF/context.xml files; if those were being ignored, those 
webapps could not function.

Note that if you have a ROOT.xml file in conf/Catalina/[host], that will 
override what's in webapps/ROOT/META-INF/context.xml.

 - Chuck


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