Hello all :)
I've been sending copies of our mails to users@vi.openoffice.org .
Would you like to continue there? Or is this more effective?
On 23/10/2006, at 9:21 PM, Dao-Duy Pierre wrote:
Hello Charles, Louis, Nam, Anh Vu Do Quynh and Chi. Chytie,
I'm just come back from San Francisco.
I'm apologized because I read Charles's email on Saturday morning
but I was too tired to answer immediately.
Charles' email is not the first information on the activity in our
project. There has been activity on the l10n@vi.openoffice.org
mailing list since early May this year, including pleas for
participation. Is there some reason why you have not responded to any
of this? It has meant we were not even aware that you were involved
in the project.
Nam had contacted us, and his work is the basis of our continuation.
His name is on the OOo official table. The only way we could know if
you were involved, is if you participated in the project. I do not
understand why you have not participated in any way.
I gather, from people outside the VI project, that you were fortunate
enough to be able to attend the OOo Con. We would certainly have
appreciated seeing some comment by you about that event.
So this morning, I’m very please to see that there is a lot of
discussion on viooo during last week-end. Once again, I’m very
sorry not participating in your previous exchange. But that #%£$§!
jet lag takes me far from my computer all these 2 days.
The lists, and the project, have all been active for six months.
There are a lot of point raise by Anh Vu Do Quynh. I will answer in
detail later.
How ever the main idea is that the viooo web site is obsolete. In
that point I totally agree with Anh Vu Do Quynh. The text and link
are not good, and so on...
It takes a few minutes to update a webpage. The last modification
date on the vi.openoffice.org webpages (before Quynh's recent upload
of his translated documents) is _years_ ago.
The main cause is despite Nam and the VI l10n team great effort and
work, we don’t have enough resources to follow OOo release
schedule and compile an up to date Vietnamese version.
Why does this stop you putting a few sentences on a webpage? At least
then, the community would know what is going on.
So, we have some viOOo beta version but no official release.
We will have an official release with OOo 2.1. This achievement has
not required much in the way of resources (except sustained effort),
and certainly no funding. It has been completely voluntary. It owes a
great deal to Nam's previous work, which we appreciate very much.
We do hope to have some funding support in distributing CDs. A number
of organizations have shown interest in promoting our release. But
all of this information is on the lists, and on our temporary project
page (in both English and Vietnamese). The location of this page has
been mentioned on the lists in both languages. So any member of the
project is aware of it.
I’ve explain our difficulties to Pavel Janik during the Lyon OOo
meeting and he says that we’re better based our installation
process on the VI language package. It makes the user installation
a little more difficult, but it will be fully supported by OOo core
team. So if the VI l10n team agree with that solution we will
release soon a new user installation guide. And things will go on
and change...
Please send as much information on this proposal as possible, to the
lists. This is certainly something we need to discuss, especially
with the release imminent. Please give us a link to your work on the
new installation guide: it would be a big help. :)
Talk does not achieve anything without effort. I want to see
something you have _done_. I have great respect for effort,
especially consistent effort. It produces results.
Last think I would like to answer before I stop, is there is a mis
understand with Anh Vu Do Quynh. I’ve already granted him a long
time ago the Content Developer right when he asks me. With that
role he was able to upload his document and update the main Tai
lieu web page as we agree togather. All he have to do is to open an
issue and submit his ssh key.
I will appreciate, in general, to be involved firstly in all
questions around viOOo nativ Lang project. This is the normal
entry. And if someone doesn’t agree with my answers, you are
always free to contact Charles or Louis. But there is no reason to
disturb them without that.
You have been involved from the beginning, via the lists. Are you not
reading l10n@vi.openoffice.org and users@vi.openoffice.org? Since
we weren't aware that you were participating, due to no evidence of
participation, we could not possibly know that you wanted to be
contacted. Even after repeated pleas for participation, both on the
vi.openoffice.org lists and on the main vi_VN list, you did not
respond. I don't think it's reasonable
