[discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
This thread is the accompanying discussion thread for the ongoing vote on the same subject. Please use this discussion thread for voicing your opinion or asking questions. This makes counting the votes much easier. The discussion on our development list makes it clear that a lot of folks are

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Sebastiaan van Erk
Hi, I was wondering to what extent it is possible to have generics added to 1.3 but have it compile to 1.4 if necessary? Isn't that a just a question of not using other Java 1.5 constructs such as enums and new JDK classes? Wouldn't that solve most people's problems that need to stick to

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread lars vonk
Response inline On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should we keep supporting 1.3 and JDK 1.4? Would 1.3 + Java 5 still be supported, or will support for 1.3 be dropped totally? If so, it would then be nice that an upgrade from 1.3 with Java5 will

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Sebastiaan van Erk
Hmm... bummer. :-) How hard can it be to throw out all references to generics and insert the casts where necessary? :-) But you're right... at least in eclipse it complains if you put the source compliance level higher than the class file compliance level... Regards, Sebastiaan Johan

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Johan Compagner
dont think you can compile java 5 source (with generics) to 1.4 you have to use something like retroweaver then On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Sebastiaan van Erk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering to what extent it is possible to have generics added to 1.3 but have it compile to

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Maurice Marrink
Why does a quick release imply dropping 1.3? IMO if we do a 1.4m1 release and then slowly add additional stuff to 1.4 we could continue to support 1.3. Not that i need 1.3 but it just seems odd to throw away 1.3 so quickly after we released it. AFAIK we have the following branches: 1.2.x :

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
If you read the planning thread, you see that a lot of folks want to move to the generified Wicket version and don't want to wait 6-8 months to deploy on their production boxes. Martijn On 3/17/08, Maurice Marrink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does a quick release imply dropping 1.3? IMO if we

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Maurice Marrink
i had read that thread, but i guess i did not realize they do not want a milestone release on production. personally i have no problem with that. Thanks for clearing that up. Maurice On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you read the planning thread, you

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Alex Jacoby
Just curious what experiences people had with serialization and generics, never having played there myself... On Mar 17, 2008, at 4:13 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: This thread is the accompanying discussion thread for the ongoing vote on the same subject. Please use this discussion thread for

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Johan Compagner
what do those 2 have to do with each other? On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Alex Jacoby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious what experiences people had with serialization and generics, never having played there myself... On Mar 17, 2008, at 4:13 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: This thread

Re: [discuss] Release 1.4 with only generics and stop support for 1.3

2008-03-17 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Alex Jacoby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious what experiences people had with serialization and generics, never having played there myself... No particular issues; just works like it would work with non-generified code. Eelco