Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Am 27.07.2012 00:16, schrieb Igor Vaynberg: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. same for me.. but a german market differ from a more global one:) I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ I had to come upfront with how much pages it would be in the end. The publisher made their calculation based on it, so the page count is more strict than some one may think. the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor same for me, but more time has passed, so i would take the pain again:) maybe i am a fool:) Michael:) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
What if the developers donate (or do a fund raising... ) to fund the writing of the book? We could set a budget ... then start pledging for the same.. when the pledge amount is enough, we pay and the work begins. Then we get the book for free . or something like that. Josh On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.dewrote: Am 27.07.2012 00:16, schrieb Igor Vaynberg: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. same for me.. but a german market differ from a more global one:) I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ I had to come upfront with how much pages it would be in the end. The publisher made their calculation based on it, so the page count is more strict than some one may think. the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor same for me, but more time has passed, so i would take the pain again:) maybe i am a fool:) Michael:) --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
+1 :) Cheers, Stefan Am 27.07.2012 09:27, schrieb Josh Kamau: What if the developers donate (or do a fund raising... ) to fund the writing of the book? We could set a budget ... then start pledging for the same.. when the pledge amount is enough, we pay and the work begins. Then we get the book for free . or something like that. Josh On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.dewrote: Am 27.07.2012 00:16, schrieb Igor Vaynberg: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. same for me.. but a german market differ from a more global one:) I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ I had to come upfront with how much pages it would be in the end. The publisher made their calculation based on it, so the page count is more strict than some one may think. the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor same for me, but more time has passed, so i would take the pain again:) maybe i am a fool:) Michael:) --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
+1 too About the found raising, maybe could it be a book project in My Major Company or Kickstarter for instance... Regards, Sebastien. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: What if the developers donate (or do a fund raising... ) to fund the writing of the book? We could set a budget ... then start pledging for the same.. when the pledge amount is enough, we pay and the work begins. Then we get the book for free . or something like that. Josh On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Am 27.07.2012 00:16, schrieb Igor Vaynberg: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. same for me.. but a german market differ from a more global one:) I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ I had to come upfront with how much pages it would be in the end. The publisher made their calculation based on it, so the page count is more strict than some one may think. the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor same for me, but more time has passed, so i would take the pain again:) maybe i am a fool:) Michael:) --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.**apache.org users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
As a motivation everyone or probably top donnors could have their names somewhere on the book ;) j On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Sebastien seb...@gmail.com wrote: +1 too About the found raising, maybe could it be a book project in My Major Company or Kickstarter for instance... Regards, Sebastien. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: What if the developers donate (or do a fund raising... ) to fund the writing of the book? We could set a budget ... then start pledging for the same.. when the pledge amount is enough, we pay and the work begins. Then we get the book for free . or something like that. Josh On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Am 27.07.2012 00:16, schrieb Igor Vaynberg: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. same for me.. but a german market differ from a more global one:) I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ I had to come upfront with how much pages it would be in the end. The publisher made their calculation based on it, so the page count is more strict than some one may think. the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor same for me, but more time has passed, so i would take the pain again:) maybe i am a fool:) Michael:) --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.**apache.org users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
I'm all for improving the javadocs... oh yes... but in my experience with javadocs, the context is too limited.. to the class or interface in question.. there is rarely the more important 'bigger picture' information that you need as a developer diving into something new... Wicket is a fantastic framework .. it encapsulates so much ... but in doing that, it hides so much... I have been using tit for a couple of years now... The initial learning path is easy .. (by design) But we eventually need to step outside of the box... and that's where the encapsulation bites most of us... Ajax... jQuery... Response cycles, page caching. We need to know how it all works and yes we have the source code... but... Back to my initial request... Wicket Internals... :) -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687p4650787.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:08 AM, mlabs mlabs@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for improving the javadocs... oh yes... but in my experience with javadocs, the context is too limited.. to the class or interface in question.. there is rarely the more important 'bigger picture' information that you need as a developer diving into something new... Wicket is a fantastic framework .. it encapsulates so much ... but in doing that, it hides so much... I have been using tit for a couple of years now... The initial learning path is easy .. (by design) But we eventually need to step outside of the box... and that's where the encapsulation bites most of us... Ajax... jQuery... Response cycles, page caching. We need to know how it all works and yes we have the source code... but... Back to my initial request... Wicket Internals... :) Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Here is what I suggest: create a page in Wiki that lists the more interesting topics. Then we (the people who know more about Wicket internals) will try to fill the gaps by creating a separate Wiki page for each topic, slowly, one at a time, without the pressure of the publishers, etc. This way hopefully the community can help too by keeping them up-to-date. P.S. I still wait for your javadoc Pull Requests. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687p4650787.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. Here is what I suggest: create a page in Wiki that lists the more interesting topics. Then we (the people who know more about Wicket internals) will try to fill the gaps by creating a separate Wiki page for each topic, slowly, one at a time, without the pressure of the publishers, etc. This way hopefully the community can help too by keeping them up-to-date. This seems to me like a good approach. Perhaps a good starting point would be the table of contents of Wicket in Action. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Seeing how the previous book authors became less active after writing a book I think this is not a very good idea... :-/ Is this because the books didn't sell well enough? i can only speak for myself, define enough :) i agreed to work on the book knowing full well it was not going to sell a million copies. i wrote it so the community has an easily accessible resource. I don't know the authors personally and I don't know much about the publishing world so it could very well be another reason altogether. writing the book was a very long and a very exhausting effort, much much more then i thought it would be. when i was done the book was actually twice as long as what was published, but the publisher wanted me to trim it down to keep the cost low... they would have to charge more if the book had more pages :/ the combination of those two things has burned me out somewhat. at least enough to make me want to go play with other things for a while. -igor Here is what I suggest: create a page in Wiki that lists the more interesting topics. Then we (the people who know more about Wicket internals) will try to fill the gaps by creating a separate Wiki page for each topic, slowly, one at a time, without the pressure of the publishers, etc. This way hopefully the community can help too by keeping them up-to-date. This seems to me like a good approach. Perhaps a good starting point would be the table of contents of Wicket in Action. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Hi Martin (and other devs), Must a Jira issue accompany each pull request? Also, is it ok to use a feature branch (based on the snapshot branch) for the pull request? Bertrand On 23/07/2012 3:15 AM, Martin Grigorov wrote: Hi, You can create tickets in our Jira with attached patches if you don't know how to use GitHub or you don't want to use it. If you want to try GitHub: 1) create an account at GitHub (https://github.com/) 2) go to https://github.com/apache/wicket and click the Fork button 3) clone the fork locally: git clone https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket.git (replace MY_ACCIUNT with your real username.) 4) make your improvements in the code 5) git commit 6) git push 7) go to https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket and press the Pull Request button That's it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Paul Bors p...@bors.ws wrote: I second improving the current code documentation as I recently migrated a mid-size project to Wicket 1.5.7 from 1.3.7 and I've notice myself having to dig into the framework implementation more often than normal because of the weak or at times wrong JavaDocs. I won't mind submitting small patches if someone would point the way. Last I asked I was told to submit a push via git hub. Is there a wiki page on how to submit such code changes patches to a wicket branch? At the same time I do feel that a book explaining the inner works of Wicket will also benefit everyone to better understand the framework faster and be able to contribute as needed. I remember couple of years ago when I first started working with Wicket and how lost I was until after I read two books on the subject just to learn how to use it. That's my 2 cents :) ~ Thank you, p...@bors.ws -Original Message- From: snekse [mailto:sne...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new -book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
If it is just a patch for the javadocs then you may skip Jira. No need to explain the same in several tools. It should be easy for you to contribute. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Bertrand Guay-Paquet ber...@step.polymtl.ca wrote: Hi Martin (and other devs), Must a Jira issue accompany each pull request? Also, is it ok to use a feature branch (based on the snapshot branch) for the pull request? Bertrand On 23/07/2012 3:15 AM, Martin Grigorov wrote: Hi, You can create tickets in our Jira with attached patches if you don't know how to use GitHub or you don't want to use it. If you want to try GitHub: 1) create an account at GitHub (https://github.com/) 2) go to https://github.com/apache/wicket and click the Fork button 3) clone the fork locally: git clone https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket.git (replace MY_ACCIUNT with your real username.) 4) make your improvements in the code 5) git commit 6) git push 7) go to https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket and press the Pull Request button That's it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Paul Bors p...@bors.ws wrote: I second improving the current code documentation as I recently migrated a mid-size project to Wicket 1.5.7 from 1.3.7 and I've notice myself having to dig into the framework implementation more often than normal because of the weak or at times wrong JavaDocs. I won't mind submitting small patches if someone would point the way. Last I asked I was told to submit a push via git hub. Is there a wiki page on how to submit such code changes patches to a wicket branch? At the same time I do feel that a book explaining the inner works of Wicket will also benefit everyone to better understand the framework faster and be able to contribute as needed. I remember couple of years ago when I first started working with Wicket and how lost I was until after I read two books on the subject just to learn how to use it. That's my 2 cents :) ~ Thank you, p...@bors.ws -Original Message- From: snekse [mailto:sne...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new -book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Hi, You can create tickets in our Jira with attached patches if you don't know how to use GitHub or you don't want to use it. If you want to try GitHub: 1) create an account at GitHub (https://github.com/) 2) go to https://github.com/apache/wicket and click the Fork button 3) clone the fork locally: git clone https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket.git (replace MY_ACCIUNT with your real username.) 4) make your improvements in the code 5) git commit 6) git push 7) go to https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket and press the Pull Request button That's it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Paul Bors p...@bors.ws wrote: I second improving the current code documentation as I recently migrated a mid-size project to Wicket 1.5.7 from 1.3.7 and I've notice myself having to dig into the framework implementation more often than normal because of the weak or at times wrong JavaDocs. I won't mind submitting small patches if someone would point the way. Last I asked I was told to submit a push via git hub. Is there a wiki page on how to submit such code changes patches to a wicket branch? At the same time I do feel that a book explaining the inner works of Wicket will also benefit everyone to better understand the framework faster and be able to contribute as needed. I remember couple of years ago when I first started working with Wicket and how lost I was until after I read two books on the subject just to learn how to use it. That's my 2 cents :) ~ Thank you, p...@bors.ws -Original Message- From: snekse [mailto:sne...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new -book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Thanks Martin, That's quite helpful, I'll sign up today :) ~ Thank you, Paul Bors -Original Message- From: Martin Grigorov [mailto:mgrigo...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 3:15 AM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Hi, You can create tickets in our Jira with attached patches if you don't know how to use GitHub or you don't want to use it. If you want to try GitHub: 1) create an account at GitHub (https://github.com/) 2) go to https://github.com/apache/wicket and click the Fork button 3) clone the fork locally: git clone https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket.git (replace MY_ACCIUNT with your real username.) 4) make your improvements in the code 5) git commit 6) git push 7) go to https://github.com/MY_ACCOUNT/wicket and press the Pull Request button That's it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Paul Bors p...@bors.ws wrote: I second improving the current code documentation as I recently migrated a mid-size project to Wicket 1.5.7 from 1.3.7 and I've notice myself having to dig into the framework implementation more often than normal because of the weak or at times wrong JavaDocs. I won't mind submitting small patches if someone would point the way. Last I asked I was told to submit a push via git hub. Is there a wiki page on how to submit such code changes patches to a wicket branch? At the same time I do feel that a book explaining the inner works of Wicket will also benefit everyone to better understand the framework faster and be able to contribute as needed. I remember couple of years ago when I first started working with Wicket and how lost I was until after I read two books on the subject just to learn how to use it. That's my 2 cents :) ~ Thank you, p...@bors.ws -Original Message- From: snekse [mailto:sne...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-ne w -book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.dewrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.dewrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new-book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
RE: I think it's time for a new book.... Igor and Co ?
I second improving the current code documentation as I recently migrated a mid-size project to Wicket 1.5.7 from 1.3.7 and I've notice myself having to dig into the framework implementation more often than normal because of the weak or at times wrong JavaDocs. I won't mind submitting small patches if someone would point the way. Last I asked I was told to submit a push via git hub. Is there a wiki page on how to submit such code changes patches to a wicket branch? At the same time I do feel that a book explaining the inner works of Wicket will also benefit everyone to better understand the framework faster and be able to contribute as needed. I remember couple of years ago when I first started working with Wicket and how lost I was until after I read two books on the subject just to learn how to use it. That's my 2 cents :) ~ Thank you, p...@bors.ws -Original Message- From: snekse [mailto:sne...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: I think it's time for a new book Igor and Co ? Putting in my 2 cents. I'd rather see more people put in time and effort to submit patches for documentation that would reduce the need to dig into the guts of Wicket. Now that I'm more familiar with Wicket, I'll try to start doing this. I hope others will too. On Jul 22, 2012 10:55 AM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: I would put the bell on the cat .. but maybe someone would join.. Mm:) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com schrieb: lol. my thoughts exactly :) -igor On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Josh Kamau joshnet2...@gmail.com wrote: Who will bell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat; the cat ? On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mosmann mich...@mosmann.de wrote: Had the same idea... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. mlabs mlabs@gmail.com schrieb: The title would be ... 'Wicket Internals' ... Dive DEEPER into the parts other programmers never reach The inner workings of response cycles... what really happens ... Oh and esp the Ajax stuff... jQuery integration ... etc... TIA -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/I-think-it-s-time-for-a-new -book-Igor-and-Co-tp4650687.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org _ To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
