Wicket with GWT
Hi All, I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data between browser and the server. Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am really impressed by seeing some presentations. My Question: Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together? The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets use of Wicket to manage flow, sessions etc. Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a foreseeable future. Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome. Regards, Nitin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20476682.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket with GWT
Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket. Both are ui techs that do things completely different. Give us an example how you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and what GWT then should do On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data between browser and the server. Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am really impressed by seeing some presentations. My Question: Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together? The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets use of Wicket to manage flow, sessions etc. Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a foreseeable future. Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome. Regards, Nitin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20476682.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket with GWT
By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features of the Wicket integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would integrate YUI with Wicket pages. Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a faster, better app. Any issues seen in this? By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now. Regards, Nitin Johan Compagner wrote: Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket. Both are ui techs that do things completely different. Give us an example how you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and what GWT then should do On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data between browser and the server. Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am really impressed by seeing some presentations. My Question: Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together? The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets use of Wicket to manage flow, sessions etc. Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a foreseeable future. Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome. Regards, Nitin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20476682.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20477386.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket with GWT
Nitin, I have spoken to several GWT experts about this as the idea does at first seem very attractive. Although it is technically feasible (with some significant effort to make a _decent_ integration of the two frameworks), we have never managed to come up with a compelling use-case that would make it worthwhile. Can you give a concrete example of an application/use-case where we would benefit from this. Regards - Cemal http://www.jWeekend.co.uk http://jWeekend.co.uk OO, Wicket, JPA, Java, Swing, Spring training, consulting and devolpment nitingupta183 wrote: By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features of the Wicket integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would integrate YUI with Wicket pages. Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a faster, better app. Any issues seen in this? By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now. Regards, Nitin Johan Compagner wrote: Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket. Both are ui techs that do things completely different. Give us an example how you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and what GWT then should do On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data between browser and the server. Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am really impressed by seeing some presentations. My Question: Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together? The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets use of Wicket to manage flow, sessions etc. Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a foreseeable future. Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome. Regards, Nitin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20476682.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20478665.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wicket with GWT
Hi Cemal, I have following use cases in my mind: I want to use Wicket for all the server side goodies like Session, web flow etc. At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. I don't use or want to use RPC. We make use of our custom data feeds. If the above combination can work then we can have a traditional multi-page web application with each page having great looking widgets and animations. What I want to achieve can also be achieved if I don't use Wicket. Wicket usage is desired for the server side goodies that it can provide to individual page. Regards, Nitin -Original Message- From: jWeekend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:32 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Wicket with GWT Nitin, I have spoken to several GWT experts about this as the idea does at first seem very attractive. Although it is technically feasible (with some significant effort to make a _decent_ integration of the two frameworks), we have never managed to come up with a compelling use-case that would make it worthwhile. Can you give a concrete example of an application/use-case where we would benefit from this. Regards - Cemal http://www.jWeekend.co.uk http://jWeekend.co.uk OO, Wicket, JPA, Java, Swing, Spring training, consulting and devolpment nitingupta183 wrote: By integration I meant that if I can make use of the server side features of the Wicket integrate the widgets of GWT just like someone would integrate YUI with Wicket pages. Both technologies are great. Just thinking of a possible marriage for a faster, better app. Any issues seen in this? By the way I know wicket only from the surface as of now. Regards, Nitin Johan Compagner wrote: Personally i dont see an integration at all between GWT an Wicket. Both are ui techs that do things completely different. Give us an example how you see flow (setResponsePage()) in wicket and what GWT then should do On 11/13/08, nitingupta183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am working on a web application which makes use of GWT. I have not used GWT RPC majorly. We have made use of the JSON feeds and have used GWT just as a front end technology with almost no say in how we are transporting data between browser and the server. Now we are growing the application and more and more modules have to be added. There are now clear requirements which has forced us to think of using another web development framework. Got to know about Wicket and I am really impressed by seeing some presentations. My Question: Can I make use of Wicket and GWt together? The need to do is : Use of GWT ( GWT-Ext) widgets use of Wicket to manage flow, sessions etc. Transport: So far we have relied on the JSON feeds. I think it will continue in the future as well. Newer data transports can be developed using forms in Wicket. I.e. a combination of these two is going to be there for a foreseeable future. Suggestions/Links/References are heartedly welcome. Regards, Nitin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20476682.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-with-GWT-tp20476682p20478665.html Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wicket with GWT
At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still. One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested that, though. Hope that helps. LT
Re: Wicket with GWT
If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been some work done in this area. See the following links. ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration -Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still. One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested that, though. Hope that helps. LT
Re: Wicket with GWT
Also, can you share what you get from Wicket that you don't get from GWT? That would be useful for those who venture on this list considering GWT versus Wicket. Thanks, Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Richard Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If ExtJS essentially gives you what you want in the way of widgets, why not look into integration of ExtJS and Wicket? In the near future, we will be migrating our applications that use ExtJS to Wicket. There has already been some work done in this area. See the following links. ExtJS 2.2: http://code.google.com/p/wicket-ext/ ExtJS 2.0: http://www.wickettools.org/index.php/extjs-integration -Richard On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ladislav Thon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the same time, I want to embed certain GWT or GWT-Ext widgets in the Wicket pages because they are really cool and would take a considerable effort for any developer to implement them in javascript. Sounds like an idea I also had before: using GWT to create rich JavaScript components embeddable in any kind of HTML page (be it static, Wicket generated or whatever). Not really a Wicket question, but still. One can think of using GWT to produce highly optimized JavaScript which exports some API to plain JavaScript you write -- gwt-exporter http://code.google.com/p/gwt-exporter/ might be useful to do this. Maybe it is possible to create standard GWT application consisting only of your library and a few lines of code to actually export the API (which should prevent GWT compiler from optimizing your library out :-) ). Not tested that, though. Hope that helps. LT
