Re: AW: Wicket + CMS

2008-04-18 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
Hi,

that is correct, Hippo CMS 7 should be ready for release in a few months
time.  It is a rewrite where the CMS itself is implemented in Wicket.

plug shameless=true

The repository is a JCR (JackRabbit) repository extended with workflow
and faceted navigation.  The CMS is composed as a set of plugins.  These
Wicket components can be configured and that can be dynamically swapped
in and out of the application.  We use this for example for the
templates.  Templates consist of a set of (template) plugins and a
configuration in the repository.  The template configuration can be
edited in the CMS itself!

/plug

At the moment we're rethinking the architecture, so I can't give details
on how plugins are implemented or how they are linked together at
runtime.

cheers, Frank

On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:12 +0200, Noz, Felix wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've also read about plans to use wicket integration in Hippo Cms and I will 
 keep an eye on it. I've also managed to access OpenCms content with wicket 
 but because we have a lot of JSP that we would like to reuse and we 
 contemporary need a solid frontend framework integration we will - as a start 
 - concentrate on a classic rerquest-based one with jsp view for now. Maybe we 
 will recur to wicket again later.  
 Thanks for your and all other people's answers.
 
 Regards
 
 Felix Noz
  
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: StephenP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. April 2008 11:57
 An: users@wicket.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: Wicket + CMS
 
 
 Our project has tied in HippoCMS for pulling a portion of content into wicket 
 pages. 
 I don't have many details to hand but it wasn't too hard. 
 Hippo has a xml over http interface that we use to cache content, before 
 putting the xml elements into wicket models.
 
 We are using hippo version 6, but I think hippo version 7 (the next version) 
 will be using wicket internally. I don't know if this will allow any stronger 
 integration with a wicket app.
 
 
 
 
 
 Noz, Felix wrote:
  
  Hello everybody,
   
  I'm currently evaluating different Frontend Frameworks to use them 
  with a Java-Based CMS (OpenCms) and I'm very interested in trying 
  wicket. The CMS has got its own Template mechanism which is based on 
  JSP. Because it would be a problem for us to throw away all existing 
  Templates and JSP Tags my idea was to implement a 
  ResourceStreamLocator that connects to the CMS via http and delivers 
  the resources directly from the CMS so that the CMS is rather a pure 
  persistence and template system.
  My questions are:
  
  - Is this a passible way to connect wicket to a jsp based system?
  - Are there any better solutions?
  - Does anybody else has experience in connecting OpenCms + wicket?
  
  Regards
  
  i.A. Felix Noz
   
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Re: AW: Wicket + CMS

2008-04-18 Thread Uwe Schäfer

Frank van Lankvelt schrieb:

Hi Frank,

think we´ve talked at the meetup about that.


plug shameless=true

The repository is a JCR (JackRabbit) repository extended with workflow
and faceted navigation.  The CMS is composed as a set of plugins.  These
Wicket components can be configured and that can be dynamically swapped
in and out of the application.  We use this for example for the
templates.  Templates consist of a set of (template) plugins and a
configuration in the repository.  The template configuration can be
edited in the CMS itself!

/plug


will the actual delivery be done by a JSP frontend, or a Wicket frontend?

And if JSP will be delivering, can we build CMS-agnostic wicket 
components that could wor as they would in a normal wicket app (wrapped 
by some plugin adapter of course)?


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Re: AW: Wicket + CMS

2008-04-18 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
Hi Uwe,

  plug shameless=true
  
  The repository is a JCR (JackRabbit) repository extended with workflow
  and faceted navigation.  The CMS is composed as a set of plugins.  These
  Wicket components can be configured and that can be dynamically swapped
  in and out of the application.  We use this for example for the
  templates.  Templates consist of a set of (template) plugins and a
  configuration in the repository.  The template configuration can be
  edited in the CMS itself!
  
  /plug
 
 will the actual delivery be done by a JSP frontend, or a Wicket frontend?
 
at the moment, we're focussing on JSP.  A custom tag library is under
development that accesses the repository and allows url mapping.

It should certainly be possible to develop a frontend in Wicket; the
models that we use to access the repository are easily reused.
To embed plugins, e.g. those used by the CMS, does require some support
from the environment.  The Wicket session needs to provide a valid JCR
session, for example.

 And if JSP will be delivering, can we build CMS-agnostic wicket 
 components that could wor as they would in a normal wicket app (wrapped 
 by some plugin adapter of course)?
 
yes, if you're components don't need to have any interaction with the
CMS then this is certainly possible.

When you do want to have an interaction, some additional constaints will
(likely) be present due to the possible actions of other plugins.

If you want to further discuss the Hippo CMS, then we should move the
discussion to the hipporepos-dev mailing list.  You can subscribe and
visit the archives at
http://lists.hippo.nl/mailman/listinfo/hipporepos-dev
The traffic mainly consists of JIRA updates and svn-logs, but it should
be possible to filter these out if you want to.

thanks for the interest!

cheers, Frank


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Re: AW: Wicket + CMS

2008-04-18 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso
Someones in this thread have ever seen Riot CMS ?!

*Riot is a web-based Open Source Content Management System written in Java.
It's quite different from other systems as it has been designed to match the
needs of custom applications, [..]*

http://www.riotfamily.org


I think would be relatively easy to add Wicket support to it.


// Paolo



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Frank van Lankvelt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Uwe,

   plug shameless=true
  
   The repository is a JCR (JackRabbit) repository extended with workflow
   and faceted navigation.  The CMS is composed as a set of plugins.
  These
   Wicket components can be configured and that can be dynamically
 swapped
   in and out of the application.  We use this for example for the
   templates.  Templates consist of a set of (template) plugins and a
   configuration in the repository.  The template configuration can be
   edited in the CMS itself!
  
   /plug
 
  will the actual delivery be done by a JSP frontend, or a Wicket
 frontend?
 
 at the moment, we're focussing on JSP.  A custom tag library is under
 development that accesses the repository and allows url mapping.

 It should certainly be possible to develop a frontend in Wicket; the
 models that we use to access the repository are easily reused.
 To embed plugins, e.g. those used by the CMS, does require some support
 from the environment.  The Wicket session needs to provide a valid JCR
 session, for example.

  And if JSP will be delivering, can we build CMS-agnostic wicket
  components that could wor as they would in a normal wicket app (wrapped
  by some plugin adapter of course)?
 
 yes, if you're components don't need to have any interaction with the
 CMS then this is certainly possible.

 When you do want to have an interaction, some additional constaints will
 (likely) be present due to the possible actions of other plugins.

 If you want to further discuss the Hippo CMS, then we should move the
 discussion to the hipporepos-dev mailing list.  You can subscribe and
 visit the archives at
 http://lists.hippo.nl/mailman/listinfo/hipporepos-dev
 The traffic mainly consists of JIRA updates and svn-logs, but it should
 be possible to filter these out if you want to.

 thanks for the interest!

 cheers, Frank


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AW: Wicket + CMS

2008-04-17 Thread Noz, Felix
Hi,

I've also read about plans to use wicket integration in Hippo Cms and I will 
keep an eye on it. I've also managed to access OpenCms content with wicket but 
because we have a lot of JSP that we would like to reuse and we contemporary 
need a solid frontend framework integration we will - as a start - concentrate 
on a classic rerquest-based one with jsp view for now. Maybe we will recur to 
wicket again later.  
Thanks for your and all other people's answers.

Regards

Felix Noz
 


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: StephenP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. April 2008 11:57
An: users@wicket.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Wicket + CMS


Our project has tied in HippoCMS for pulling a portion of content into wicket 
pages. 
I don't have many details to hand but it wasn't too hard. 
Hippo has a xml over http interface that we use to cache content, before 
putting the xml elements into wicket models.

We are using hippo version 6, but I think hippo version 7 (the next version) 
will be using wicket internally. I don't know if this will allow any stronger 
integration with a wicket app.





Noz, Felix wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
  
 I'm currently evaluating different Frontend Frameworks to use them 
 with a Java-Based CMS (OpenCms) and I'm very interested in trying 
 wicket. The CMS has got its own Template mechanism which is based on 
 JSP. Because it would be a problem for us to throw away all existing 
 Templates and JSP Tags my idea was to implement a 
 ResourceStreamLocator that connects to the CMS via http and delivers 
 the resources directly from the CMS so that the CMS is rather a pure 
 persistence and template system.
 My questions are:
 
 - Is this a passible way to connect wicket to a jsp based system?
 - Are there any better solutions?
 - Does anybody else has experience in connecting OpenCms + wicket?
 
 Regards
 
 i.A. Felix Noz
  
 __
 __
  
 Felix Noz
 Junior IT-Berater
 Dipl. Informatiker (FH)
  
 comundus GmbH
 Schüttelgrabenring 3, 71332 Waiblingen
  
 Telefon +49 (0) 71 51-5 00 28-22
 Internet www.comundus.com
  
 Geschäftsführer: Klaus Hillemeier
 Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 264290
  
 comundus ist ein Unternehmen der IT EXCELLENCE Group.
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