Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
Yeah if they somehow can be related to a person.. So if you are to use such statistics you have to obfuscate data to make certain that it's not possible who (a named person) did what. I guess it's not directly target against the web, but a general law.. But enough of our weird rules :) [1] http://www.datatilsynet.dk/ 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: You have laws against collecting statistics about website usage? ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: Ahh I understand.. Never crossed my mind, as I think we laws against that in denmark (where I am living).. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
I've been in the same situation, and decided against GA and in favour of my own implementation. Main reason is that GA is problematic in the EU due to privacy concerns. Nevertheless, whether you implement your own tracker or use GA, you need to come up with semantics of stateful content. So if the user clicks some link, you need to communicate the meaning of the target page to the tracker - I do not think you can bypass that, in the context of AJAX and stateful pages. I think you can use GA's API: http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/gaJS/gaJSApi.html (Because of the privacy concerns I've not looked into it - there will be an issue of adding the required Javascript, I've built a footer contributor framework for a similar situation, if you are interested, I can give you info, but it is quite easy to do this...) Quoting Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
What our team did was write a behavior for tracking wicket component rendering ajax behaviour execution which could be used to track wizard actions... On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, M. Hammer nab...@hammer-tour.com wrote: I've been in the same situation, and decided against GA and in favour of my own implementation. Main reason is that GA is problematic in the EU due to privacy concerns. Nevertheless, whether you implement your own tracker or use GA, you need to come up with semantics of stateful content. So if the user clicks some link, you need to communicate the meaning of the target page to the tracker - I do not think you can bypass that, in the context of AJAX and stateful pages. I think you can use GA's API: http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/gaJS/gaJSApi.html (Because of the privacy concerns I've not looked into it - there will be an issue of adding the required Javascript, I've built a footer contributor framework for a similar situation, if you are interested, I can give you info, but it is quite easy to do this...) Quoting Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Rodolfo Hansen CTO, KindleIT Software Development Email: rhan...@kitsd.com Mobile: +1 (809) 860-6669
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
Ahh I understand.. Never crossed my mind, as I think we laws against that in denmark (where I am living).. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
You have laws against collecting statistics about website usage? ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: Ahh I understand.. Never crossed my mind, as I think we laws against that in denmark (where I am living).. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Google Analytics and Wicket Dynamic Urls
We are using google analytics with wicket on our site (the asynchronous model), and explicitly specify the page URL by passing a parameter to _trackPageView. See http://www.rixty.com. That way we can track a logical view of the site hierarchy, and don't have to worry about the page parameters. On May 22, 2010, at 10:52 AM, nino martinez wael wrote: Ahh I understand.. Never crossed my mind, as I think we laws against that in denmark (where I am living).. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: No. I do not want to omit. I want to track stateful content. ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: So on your pages that do not contain stateless content just omit the ga js..? Should be simple and work, although depending on your architecture.. 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hmm... my problem was how to track not how to omit tracking ... ;] ** Martin 2010/5/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com: why not just omit the analytics js on the pages that you do not want track of? 2010/5/22 Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com: Hi! We would like to use google analytics to track how users use our site. This means that the url should contain some information about on which page the user is on and furthermore google should be taught to ignore some of the redundant dynamic part like wicket:interface=:1 which does not make any sense. Has someone done this successfully, any pointers? Actually my situation is similar to http://osdir.com/ml/users/2010-04/msg07754.html and I also want to track how users tackle our wizards steps. Did anybody try trackPageview method? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Analytics/thread?tid=27c37c44122a95dchl=en http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=55485 ** Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
